Master Barachiel Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hey there, I've just noticed that the description of the Consecrators, one of the successor chapters of the Dark Angels, is quite similar to the description of the Legion of the Damned. Their very both origins are quite unclear. They are both heroic fighters that appear in the darkest hour on the battlefield and change it to an unexpected victory for the Emperor. They both have unique, distinctive outward appearance (the Consecrators take relics, artefacts and antique weapons into battle; the Legion of the Dammned has those flames all around). They are both some kind of elite warriors who only fight for the desperate, outgonned servants of the Emperor. Last, but not least, their armours. The both chapters' armours are mostly black. I know that all these similarities are not THAT striking but I like the idea to play them like the Legion of the damned in an apocalyptic battle. The Legion has a special Apocalypse formation and I would like to play that with Consecrators. One the one hand because this chapter is quite cool and their are those similarities. On the other hand it's also a question of money that you want to spent. I mean those tin models are nice to see but a whole army of them? I think I prefer plastic then. And although it's absolutely impossible to play it in a standard game, I think it's worth it. Plus, you have a great background for playing a Space Marine unit in an Apocalypse. What do you think of it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I love the idea :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2736945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Barachiel Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 Thank you a lot. Especially your appreciation for this idea means much to me. You, as the owner of this magnificant website, have for certain seen and heard of many projects. Therefore I like it that you are not thinking this to be too strange or something. Anyway, ever since forge world sells all those ancient armours it's quite easier to start a army that wears the eldest weaponary and armour. And I always kept those Corvus Helmets for later projects. I guess, now the Time has come. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2736988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Using the Consecrators as Legion of the Damned sounds like an awesome idea. Can't wait to see some conversion pics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2737027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 While it is a cool and fun idea, I don't think that it is what was actually intended for the Consecrators. I think the Consecrators are actually there to act more like Master Cypher for the Order, in that they keep the history of the "legion", hence all the artifacts, relics, etc. I also don't think that the Consecrators sound quite as supernatural as the Legion of the Damned does. Nevertheless, it sounds like a cool idea and would be fun to fight with or against, so let us know how it turns out (and let us see some pics)! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2737036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Barachiel Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 @Bryan Blaire If the Legion of the Damned is really an army of Saints is kept unclear. They must have magnificant armours for certain as they walked through crossfire. But I doubt that the spectators of those fights the Legion of the Damned was involved in were totally objective. In this battle they walked through heavy crossfire there might one or two have been shot but nobody saw it. I suppose that it is hard to watch through dozens of bullets. Therefore I am not so sure if the Legion of the Damned is really consisting of Saints or if they are simply Marines forged in hardest battles with artificial armours that protect them from most fire. Of course it's interesting then that there was never a corpse found of these or that they glow but as I said and as the profile of the Legion hints at they are just damn good warriors that know when to fight and when to retreat. Because the codex also tells us they used to disappear very fast after they are done. So IF the Legion of the Damned should not be a holy/cursed army of invincible Saints, they are pretty much like the Consecrators. Unique, mysterious and quite successful warriors of whom nobody knows anything for certain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2738165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 This is the original Legion of Damned fluff, before it was wrapped in mysterious mojo. Enjoy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2738430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Barachiel Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Most of the article ist without any citation and even if this is taken from a White Dwarf it's still contrary to the 5th edition of the SM Codex, because that one states that it is uncertain who those warriors are and it's only speculation that they might be former members of the Fire hawks. So which source is right about it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2738670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Which source is right is subject to your own views on it, that's the beauty of how WH40K operates. There really isn't a right or wrong to most of it. Personally, I wasn't saying that either the more original fluff (which is still what I would call supernatural - warp contagions aren't generally found in the normal plane of existence - and most Marines aren't so insane that they ignore pretty much all damage) or the newer stuff that is more "They are savior Marines", etc, is better, worse, or even correct, but the Consecrators don't sound remotely like either background to me. Their Founding records are lost? So are a lot of other Chapters. They don't have large histories of deeds? So do other official Chapters from GW. They use what appears to be the Legion's ancient relics and equipment. Why would that make them more like the Legion, as plenty of First Founding and even some Second foundings are recorded as still doing this. My view on the Consecrators, that they act somewhat in a similar capacity to the DA fluff character of Master Cypher, doesn't have to have any bearing on anyone else, but I don't think that the Consecrators have any indications in official material as being cursed/blessed in a similar fashion to the Legion of the Damned. If anyone does feel this way, then they should obviously run with it if it makes them happy and their games more enjoyable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2738939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Most of the article ist without any citation and even if this is taken from a White Dwarf it's still contrary to the 5th edition of the SM Codex, because that one states that it is uncertain who those warriors are and it's only speculation that they might be former members of the Fire hawks. So which source is right about it? Lol, the article is without citation, because it's copy-paste job from the White Dwarf and as I said this article is original fluff before the 5th edition and its mystical mojo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228384-role-of-the-consecrators/#findComment-2739708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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