BassWave Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I've been a member of the B&C for a while now, and its been fun :tu: Now I want to start creating fluff here in the Liber. I am new to the Liber Astartes, and would like some assistance. I would also like to point out that I have read the guide to creating DIY chapter fluff (great stuff by the way) and I know about the dos and don'ts of fluff making. But because I want to create fluff for a specific company of an already existing chapter, I'm going to need advice on how to proceed. Lets start with some questions- 1. Is making fluff for companies looked down upon? I know that fluff changes all the time and that GW could release some new fluff on Iron Hands that could mess up my DIY fluff. I'm not worried about that as this is more for fun. Besides its not like GW releases much fluff on them anyways :P 2. How should I format my entry? Iron Hands companies tend to do their own thing apart from the rest of the chapter, so do I treat my company like a separate chapter and format it as such? You are probably wondering, why create fluff for a company when you can just make your own chapter. Well I'm glad you asked. I really like the personality and characteristics of the Iron Hands. If I had made a seperate chapter, they would have been WAY too similar. Basically my problem was that I just wanted to give them my own twist. When I saw how independent each Iron Hand Company is (similar to space wolves) and that there were a few unamed companies, I jumped at the chance ;) I really want to do this right so advice is greatly appreciated and welcomed ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I think it could be a really interesting article - but you will need to decide if you are doing an Iron Hand Company or a Clan :). It would be interesting as you can ignore large portions of a normal IA and focus on characters, current squads etc. You can really go into detail about the individual engagements and Sergeants of different squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2739216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted April 27, 2011 Author Share Posted April 27, 2011 Alright let me give you guys a taste on where I'm trying to go with my company The most Technologically obsessed company of the Iron Hands. Not only does Red Co. (placeholder name) have the highest amount of techmarines in the chapter, and most battle brothers are familiar enough with technology to make repairs on armor, weapons, and small scale repair work on vehicles. This frees up techmarines from the more menial work so that they can devote their time on creating new vehicle designs and other mechanical creations. Designs include different patterns of the rhino chassis that utilize mechanical legs to overcome rough terrain, war bots, and the Juggernaut. The juggernaut is a pattern of dreadnought created by those who have joined the "Disciples of the Omnissiah". The Disciples are veteran Tech Adepts that have modified their bodies to the point where they can form a neurological link to other machines, and control them the way one would control their limbs. This allows Red Co. to have the strength and power of the dreadnought in higher numbers than other space marine companies. Just a taste of what I'm trying to do. There's A LOT of stuff I need to flesh out, explain, name (lol) but then again, that is why I came for isn't it? Help is not only appreciated, but needed :) thanks in advance *Edit- Thanks for responding Ferrata. By company I obviously meant Clan company, thanks for catching that. Btw how many marines are in a clan? 100-200? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2739227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You cheeky monkey! I have been planning on writing up Clan Bracchus fluff for months now and you sneak on here and get a jump start on me! Gah! Gah I say! Well good for you, but the game is a foot now! I intend to do a full write up on Clan Bracchus spanning back from before Ferrus arrived on Medusa all the way to the present. Then I will have a second section dedicated to the clans heroes and characters of import. I think you should have no qualms writing up a separate clan or company article. Just remember that there are ten clan companies and each draws from its own clan on Medusa! Good luck! -- Raven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2741450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Irony abounds; I've wanted to write up an IA for my Clan Company for months but didn't because I figured the Liberites would tell me in no uncnertain terms how bad of an idea it is. But now you two are here doing the same thing! . . . .perhaps a measure of collaboration is in order? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2743331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Irony abounds; I've wanted to write up an IA for my Clan Company for months but didn't because I figured the Liberites would tell me in no uncnertain terms how bad of an idea it is. But now you two are here doing the same thing! . . . .perhaps a measure of collaboration is in order? I wouldn't be against the prospect, I've already begun my IA article, but I don't know if I like how it has turned out so far, so I might end up re-writing what I have done. PM me if you wanna work together to come up with great ideas. Brainstorming always helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2743655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Well, I figure we could structure them the same so that all match in format, and maybe work some cross-over material into them as well. I'm likely getting ahead of myself here, but if they come out well, they could be the start of a collaborative project to document all ten of the Clan Companies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2743717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I'm game, if you are interested I would love to have a couple of people to brainstorm with and make sure I have all my facts straight before I continue going ahead with my IA article! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2744771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Yes!!! I like this plan :geek: We should definitely work together to flesh out the different clan companies. Maybe we should list certain characteristics of each of our clans first so we don't step on any toes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2745694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Yes!!! I like this plan ;) We should definitely work together to flesh out the different clan companies. Maybe we should list certain characteristics of each of our clans first so we don't step on any toes? Sounds like a plan. I'll start off: Clan Company Shologar. Based on the battlebarge Ironsides, they specialise in ship-to-ship boarding actions and drop pod assaults. Their home on Medusa is the fortress-crawler Cadmus, named after Cadmus Mantellar, the original Clan Chief of the Shologar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2747079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Damn, haha, I just developed something similar for my clan due to their heritage....hrmm.. I was going for Fleet based / Ship to Ship / Close Quarters / Drop Pods too.. hahaha. Now that I have started down the path too I find myself really liking it. Did you read my IA? It goes on about how my clans ancestors were from a ship crash and how they have always worshipped the stars, so naturally that makes them perfect for a fleet based clan. *sigh* Edit: I wish we had a faster means of communication than these random posts! Edit Edit: Since you called it first Ferrum I could opt to shift story, its up to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2750721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Alright lately I've been trying to come up with a name for my clan, but I got nothing :lol: Any ideas guys? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2753522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 What flavor of name do you want? Something vaguely Celtic? Greco-Roman? Hebrew-Biblical? Eastern European? Mongoloid or East Asian? I can just start spitting out consonant-vowel combinations until something clicks, but I do need a starting point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2754596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Well thats the thing, I have no idea where the inspiration for Iron Hand names come from. I want a name that reflects there zelousness for technology either by the way it sounds, or with literal words from other languages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2754732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Just started reading this and was wondering. Since the Sons of Medusa began as a Iron Hands Clan with no real Founding ... if your variance on the Iron Hands theme is enough, why not just make a new Chapter in the same way? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2754746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Just started reading this and was wondering. Since the Sons of Medusa began as a Iron Hands Clan with no real Founding ... if your variance on the Iron Hands theme is enough, why not just make a new Chapter in the same way? I read somewhere that the Iron Hands Geneseed doesn't get used for new chapters due to their unstable obsession with augmentation that seems to run through their successors just as much as the original chapter. While you could make a new one it would need some clear justification. Why use a questionable seed when you could use Ultramarines, right? Haha! Making clans is safer and, since there are 5 slots that are unidentified, leaves a lot of playing room. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2754982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 What do you guys think of the name, Clan Drakken? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2757689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 sounds fine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2757785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 What do you guys think of the name, Clan Drakken? Works for me, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2758557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenfeld Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 What do you guys think of the name, Clan Drakken? Clan Drakken, it sounds fine but also lacking in some way, maybe too close to Drake? Makes me think of Salamanders. But then I am overly picky about these things! If you like it roll with it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2758994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raganrkob Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I think the name's fine, it does sound like the name of a creature, but maybe that's what you intended? I look forward to hearing more details about this new designs, got any sketches/conversions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228386-diy-iron-hands-company/#findComment-2760675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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