Roma Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Terminator armor, with an iron halo. 5+ save from the armor 4+ save from the halo does that give me a 4+ or 3+ save? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 4+. You use the best save you have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roma Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 thanks a lot, thats all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Note- the same thing goes for cover saves. If you have a 4+ cover save because of intervening models and a 3+ cover save because your in a fortified ruin, you only get the 3+ save. There are a few rules that add to saves, and theyll say so specificly- stealth for cover saves as an example gives +1, making your 4+ a 3+ and so on. Nemesis Force Swords give you a +1 invulnerable save, so a terminator with a sword has a 4+ invulnerable. In these cases theyll specifically state the case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 There are a few rules that add to saves, and theyll say so specificly- stealth for cover saves as an example gives +1, making your 4+ a 3+ and so on. Nemesis Force Swords give you a +1 invulnerable save, so a terminator with a sword has a 4+ invulnerable. In these cases theyll specifically state the case. To be very clear (and a bit pendantic on my part) Force Swords give you a +1 to your Inv. save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You know, I had a thought. Doesn't that technically make your save worse? I know what they mean, and obviously I would never claim otherwise. But if you get really nit-picky, that turns your 5+ save into a 6+ save. Ouch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Yeah, its one of those word word/math interactions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2740660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Fantasy does the same thing, when high Strength weapons reduce your save the book says it's -1, -2 etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2741328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 There are a few rules that add to saves, and theyll say so specificly- stealth for cover saves as an example gives +1, making your 4+ a 3+ and so on. Nemesis Force Swords give you a +1 invulnerable save, so a terminator with a sword has a 4+ invulnerable. In these cases theyll specifically state the case. To be very clear (and a bit pendantic on my part) Force Swords give you a +1 to your Inv. save. And to be even clearer, this increase in invulnerable save can only be claimed in combat, against shooting attacks you use your normal save. Just thought I'd add that in there before some people think that Grand Masters are getting storm shields for free. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2741344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 You know, I had a thought. Doesn't that technically make your save worse? I know what they mean, and obviously I would never claim otherwise. But if you get really nit-picky, that turns your 5+ save into a 6+ save. Ouch. Not really, you have a 5+ save. you get a plus 1 to your saving throws from the force sword. Assume you roll a 4, you then add the 1. Now it's a 5 and you've passed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228600-invulnerable-saves-query/#findComment-2741500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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