Need advice on white primer and plastic glue?

[Captain Psycho]

My can of GW white primer is almost out, I was going to shell out the ridiculous 15 USD for another can but thought I would solicit advice on other brands first. I should mention the reason I've stuck with GW primers up until now is that I live in the New York City area and the weather here sucks for most of the year. High temps in the low 30s most of the winter and hot as hell and humid as the jungle all summer. Bascially the only months with dry, warm weather are May, September and October.

 

As overpriced as GW primer is, I've used it in all kinds of weather with good results. I prime on the balcony of my apartment and I leave the models out to dry as the awful smell of freshly primed minis will fill up a small apartment in a hurry. Even in the dead of winter it dries smooth, does not cover details and has just the right grit for painting over (I know I sound like a GW paint fanboy but I actually loathe citadel paints).

 

So anyone have an recommendations based on experience in less than ideal climates?

 

Also can anyone recommend a good plastic glue? I have the GW glue and the tip clogs, it comes out very "goopey" and generally is a mess to work with - however it does bond plastics very well. Ideally I'd like to find a brand with a good applicator that bonds plastic just as well or better than GW's glue.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Shadey]

I use Revell Contacta Professional. Brilliant stuff, thin liquid cement that capillary action combined with a two inch long metal applicator tube makes it easy get the glue where you want it. Problem is, I don't think they make it anymore but you might be lucky enough to find a hobby store that still has some stock. Generally though what you what is liquid poly cement, or something like that. My models were a mess until I found that stuff.

 

Iv'e since tried a humberol one but I don't know if it was just a bad batch but the glue was a bit too thick to run down the applicator. It could still be used without one but even then it was still good and easy enough to use. The humberol one might be a bad example but don't let it colour your opinion, liquid cement is brilliant for glueing plastic.

 

Couldn't help you on the paint sorry.

[maverike_prime]

as far glues go I would check out Testor's Model Master Series. It's a bit pricey compared to other cements, but this stuff can really go the distance. I bought some over a year ago and that first bottle is still going strong.

 

As for paint, there's a brand I'm going to try. Can't recall the name just now. But I've been told good things about and my local hobby center carries it. If someone says the name of it I'll recognize it right away.

[Shadey]

Maverike, yup that looks exactly like what I was talking about (albeit a different brand). I might have to try that one. Thanks for the tip.

[ShinyRhino]

Most folks why use a spray primer swear by Kryon Sandable Primer.

That Testor's ModelMaster plastic cement is a godsend. I used to use the testor's stuff int he metal tube before I switched to the Model Master, and I actually threw out my entire tube of the old stuff. The nozzle allows precise application, and the glue is thin enough to spread evenly without overspill.

[Red Fury]

Primer and Varnish:

http://www.thewarstore.com/armoryspraypaints.html

 

Testors dullcote is even better though:

http://www.thewarstore.com/TestorsDullcote.html

 

Testors Glue (the shipping was crazy at the place liked above):

http://www.thewarstore.com/TestorsPlasticGlue.html

 

Plus they are close to you for fast shipping:

http://www.thewarstore.com/ComeVisitUs.html

 

I've used the Armory primers and varnish a lot, and like them both. I have used them in the snow and rain, but it doesn't get too hot up here in the summer at 7000ft elevation.

 

I've used a couple bottles of army painter and GF9 glue, but the tips always get fowled up, I think I'll try out the testors stuff too.

[Captain Psycho]

Thanks to all the replies.

 

@Red Fury - I've ordered from warstore before, the owner neil provides good customer service but I generally only order from them when I need a bunch of P3 paints and some new models because the flat rate shipping is a bit much for one or two items (compared to eBay sellers).

[AngryJohnny]

I use the Testor's Model Master Customer Lacquer System White Primer SKU# 28138 for all of my models. I love the Testor's brand. (I use their Model Master Acrylic paints almost exclusively too). I've had fantastic results with their primer.

[averykess]

I use Ambroid ProWeld. It is a brush-on liquid.

[verpine]

I use armory primer. Works great.

[Reldn]

as far glues go I would check out Testor's Model Master Series. It's a bit pricey compared to other cements, but this stuff can really go the distance. I bought some over a year ago and that first bottle is still going strong.

 

I'll vouch for this plastic cement as well. I use the same stuff and it works like a charm.

[Kurgan the Lurker]

Krylon Matte Finish/1311 Primer (comes in black or white). Very good stuff and fairly cheap.

[Redfinger]

Recently I have stopped using primer and instead have just sprayed the model with Testor's Dull Coat. For me I like working with a grey base and I thought that the additional layer of primer just obscures detail more. The dull coat is heck-uh thin and applies very smoothly and gives an excellent bite for the paint.

 

Ashton

[Captain Psycho]

In addition to the replies above I came across a recommendation for Krylon White Primer on Brushthralls (they also recommended Dupli-Color Sandable Primer).

 

http://blog.brushthralls.com/?page_id=1196

 

A 12 oz can goes for about $5 USD and is almost as much content as the $15 GW White Primer 400mL. I'm priming with my almost empty GW can today, and despite warming the can up in hot water and shaking it for 5 minutes it is dripping all over my balcony and my hand (which has happened several times before). I'm done with it, Krylon it is. I'm going to try to find one of those trigger attachments (the guy on Brushthralls is right, getting primer off your bare skin is a b#tch). I'll post some feedback after I try it on some test models.

 

@Redfinger: Is Testor's Dull Coat a primer? I thought it was a varnish. I still might want to try some other brands out (it aint cheap though, $4 - $5 for 3 ounce cans online, that's actually more expensive per ounce than GW primer).

[Brother Valerius]

as far glues go I would check out Testor's Model Master Series. It's a bit pricey compared to other cements, but this stuff can really go the distance. I bought some over a year ago and that first bottle is still going strong.

 

I'll vouch for this plastic cement as well. I use the same stuff and it works like a charm.

 

I've used it and was a big fan. At one point, though, I just couldn't get any more cement out (and there was definitely quite a bit left). Anyone else had this, and have tips to avoid it?

[Kurgan the Lurker]

I use the non-toxic version of the Testors cement: http://www.scalehobbyist.com/manufacturers...u=5&man=tes

 

Great stuff.