Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 ok, here's a thought 10 man terminator squad. 8 halberds 2 psycannons Justicar with hammer Banner psybolts 495 points 6 paladins sword hammer falchions stave halberd narthecium 2 psycannons 3 stormbolters banner no psycbolts 495 points Same points, which is the better unit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228971-opinions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
breng77 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Here is a quick breakdown Shooting(not accounting for Holocaust) Termies average 11.6 wounds against T4 Paladins Average 6.4 Assault Termies deal more wounds Averge 9 I6 PW wounds, 1.7 hammer wounds and 1 Wound from the banner (.33 against MEQ), So 11 wounds against MEQ Paladains do less 1.3 I6 PW wounds, 4.3 I 4 PW wounds, 2.2 Hammer wounds, same and .44 from the banner (MEQ)= 8.24 wounds. Paladins are more durable against S7 or less (6 paladins have more wounds, and lose effectiveness more slowly), or any wounds that don't cause instant death. SO termies kill more, Paladins can survive more. The other bonus to the paladin squad is that 6 termies can ride in a vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228971-opinions/#findComment-2745693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Here is a quick breakdown Shooting(not accounting for Holocaust) Termies average 11.6 wounds against T4 Paladins Average 6.4 Assault Termies deal more wounds Averge 9 I6 PW wounds, 1.7 hammer wounds and 1 Wound from the banner (.33 against MEQ), So 11 wounds against MEQ Paladains do less 1.3 I6 PW wounds, 4.3 I 4 PW wounds, 2.2 Hammer wounds, same and .44 from the banner (MEQ)= 8.24 wounds. Paladins are more durable against S7 or less (6 paladins have more wounds, and lose effectiveness more slowly), or any wounds that don't cause instant death. SO termies kill more, Paladins can survive more. The other bonus to the paladin squad is that 6 termies can ride in a vehicle. Yeah I favour standard termies, in a 2k list I can have 30 GKT which can split into 6 squads for scoring or stay as a 3x 10 man block of for killpoint games. Also I favour a more focused approach to kit, to be effective the paladins have to have a wide variety of equipment (for wound allocation purposes). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228971-opinions/#findComment-2745723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfire Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Too many variabilities. Do you have a Stormraven or Chimera the pallies can steal? Do you have other troop squads planned? What's the meta like in your area? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228971-opinions/#findComment-2746255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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