NightrawenII Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Because I was bored today, I did a little research and this is the result... Important notes: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistic. This should be a complete list of Foundings/Gene-seed used in the 1 January - 31 December 2010 period... Yeah, right. :D 'cos certain people have this tendency to repost their Chapter(s) (several times per month), rename and repost their Chapter(s) and basically some names are recycled periodicaly (= I have seen Myrmidons more than thrice.). It's administrative nightmare to decide whether the Chapter has been already accounted or should be accounted, therefore the Gretchins have feast. Where is nothing, even death cannot take anything. This is in no way a complete list of ALL Chapters created in this period... Mainly because some Chapters aren't nothing more than name/colour-scheme/I-got-this-idea-for-Chapter/Short-story. So the real number of Chapters 'created' in this period is presumably double. Unrecorded is Chapter without specified Founding like "Chapter was founded in M37 from the gene-seed of blah blah..." Unknown is Chapter *shrouded in mystery*. and yeah there are people who have Chapter founded in future. :P P.S. You cannot imagine what sacrilegious and blasphemous acts I have seen with my own eyes... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I think perhaps the most troubling factor here is the four Space Wolf Successors. That and the shere number of Unknown foundings. Of course I have an unknown Chapter possibly waiting in the wings but that is Games Workshops fault, not mine (read Valedictors) EDIT: And just because you like to pick faults Nightrawen I'm going to do it for you. You have incorrectly labeled all the foundings as ending with 'nd. This doesn't work for such Foundings as the 5th, 7th 20th etc. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I have to say, IF geneseed really surprises me alot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ditto, brother. More than the Ultras (shock horror)... Is this a recent trend, I wonder? :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ditto, brother. More than the Ultras (shock horror)... Is this a recent trend, I wonder? :huh: It's probably due to the popularity of both the Crimson Fists and the Black Templars.... it's quite sad, I find. Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Go Smurfs !!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Go Smurfs !!!! :huh: Ludovic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Argent Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Really? It surprised you that the Ultramarines have less followers then the Imperial Fists :huh: Seriously, where have you guys been? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Well, it's not exactly a surprise but it's not like it's a done deal. They only just edge out the Ultras. But the fluff says most chapters are Ultra-descendents and here we are, filled to the gills with Dorn's sons. It's quite obvious it's popularity and not fluff that dictates gene-lines in diy chapters. It's not that I'm complaining at all - my guys are sons of Dorn too. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 EDIT: And just because you like to pick faults Nightrawen I'm going to do it for you. You have incorrectly labeled all the foundings as ending with 'nd. This doesn't work for such Foundings as the 5th, 7th 20th etc. ;) Lol, I'm well aware of that, but it was 0:30 in the morning and I was mentally exhausted, so... :( I have to say, IF geneseed really surprises me alot. Ditto, brother. More than the Ultras (shock horror)... Is this a recent trend, I wonder? :huh: Uhm, no. The Dorn's gene-seed was always popular in the Liber. Hilariously enough, half of the IF lineage is made of BT successors and most of 22nd Founding are scions of Dorn. :P IIRC: The DA lineage is almost exlusively made of direct successors of DA, while the WS lineage is often indirect successor. :( UM lineage is is equally divided between UM and their successors, including Iron Snakes and Sons of Orar.(Btw, there is certain someone, who is responsible for creation of ~10 UM successors. :o ) The Fire Hawks, Invaders and Red Scorpions have successor too. The recent trend is the rise in BA gene-seed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Imperial Fists have always been a popular source of gene-seed for Liber. I belive it is a strange combination of wanting a widely used and stable gene-seed but not wanting to be like everyone else and being Ultramarine. Ironically, this has led to Imperial Fists being the mainstream gene-seed and the Ultramarines being the underdog and cool choice :( Good, but worrying, work NightrawenII :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrion Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 It may be because the Imperial Fists doctrines and styles are fairly consistent within their official successors - knightly, steadfast, stubborn with either a zealous or siege trait thrown in for colour. The ultramarines are the ultramarines, but their successors vary tremendously, yet if you wanted to create a hyper violent morbid chapter of cannibals from the Ultramarines then you'd probably be told that it isn't very ultramariney, even though the Mortifactors are just that. The rise in Blood Angels is more to do with the rules than the fluff, I'm sure. People trying to sandwich a stormraven into their army. Unknown is also likely to be three fifths ultramarines. But I agree - basically that pie chart should be at least 50% blue. What is good though is that people are tending to avoid the 13th founding - that used to just be an excuse for something unexplained. It's hard to come up with a totally original idea that is any good, yet I'm sure half of the official fluff for the lesser chapters would be regarded as unacceptable on the liber if it was a DIY chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Go Salamanders! You should add a further statistic... How many Salamanders Successors have "Dragon" in the Chapter name :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2748954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Ditto, brother. More than the Ultras (shock horror)... Is this a recent trend, I wonder? :huh: Uhm, no. The Dorn's gene-seed was always popular in the Liber. Hilariously enough, half of the IF lineage is made of BT successors and most of 22nd Founding are scions of Dorn. :ermm: IIRC: The DA lineage is almost exlusively made of direct successors of DA, while the WS lineage is often indirect successor. :wacko: UM lineage is is equally divided between UM and their successors, including Iron Snakes and Sons of Orar.(Btw, there is certain someone, who is responsible for creation of ~10 UM successors. :o ) The Fire Hawks, Invaders and Red Scorpions have successor too. The recent trend is the rise in BA gene-seed. That depth of information is impressive, regardless of (worrying) detail. You learn something new every day, eh? ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Go Salamanders! You should add a further statistic... How many Salamanders Successors have "Dragon" in the Chapter name :P Er, I wouldn't know :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Seems I break a couple of the stereotypes (though I suppose I use a couple), though only the Falcon Knights (previously Black Falcons) and Iron Raptors are resident in the Liber as WIP IAs. Though I think both are older than 2010, though I may have updated the Iron Raptors in 2010... The rest of my Chapters are resident on my B+C blog. My last Salamander successor was the 18th Founding Panther Warriors (which I dropped thanks to lack of inspiration beyond African theme, Hive Cities, toxic homeworld). Current list: Ultramarines > Eagle Warriors > Bronze Raptors (?) > Falcon Knights (22nd) > Starbreakers (24th) & Silver Scorpions (26th) Ultramarines - Black Wasps (16th) > Forge Knights (19th) & War Wolves (22nd) Iron Hands > Imperial Monarchs (3rd) > Iron Raptors (7th) White Scars > Storm Lords > Onyx Warlords (10th) Imperial Fists > Executioners > Immortals (5th) > Myrmidons (23rd) ( :lol: ) Dark Angels > Angels of Vengeance > Darkwatch (6th) Key: Official Chapters in bold Predecessor > Successor (XXxx) = Founding Bronze Raptors only have a ? mark Founding due to only really being a name in the Falcon Knights IA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Oh dear, I have an Imperial Fist 22nd founding successor. Whoops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Personally, I'm intrigued by the Chapters which were given a founding after the 26th. One of those time-traveling concepts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Ah well, for me it's the glorious 17th founding and I shall tapdance on the corpses of my foes with my *squint* eight brother chapters! Oh wait... gotta rewrite my old IA first... :sweat: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229145-liber-astartes-2010/#findComment-2749722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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