SW Codex

[Grimtooth]

With the release of our codex did we see any SW players new or old really try to twist the rules to create just absolutely cheat-like conditions? I can't even remember off the top of my head or even when I look through the codex where SW players attempted to read the codex in a less then honorable light.

 

That speaks pretty highly of us as gamers in my opinion.

 

/patownback

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

With the release of our codex did we see any SW players new or old really try to twist the rules to create just absolutely cheat-like conditions? I can't even remember off the top of my head or even when I look through the codex where SW players attempted to read the codex in a less then honorable light.

 

That speaks pretty highly of us as gamers in my opinion.

 

/patownback

 

i wouldnt say twist the rules, but i know of a few "Wolf" players who certainly twist the spirit of the army.

 

WLK

[Grimtooth]

That might just be unavoidable really based on the meta game.

 

I did think of the instances where the whole, "my thunderlord didn't join Ragnar, Ragnar joined him" statement has come up making me shake my head at the twist on that one.

[Forté]

That might just be unavoidable really based on the meta game.

 

I did think of the instances where the whole, "my thunderlord didn't join Ragnar, Ragnar joined him" statement has come up making me shake my head at the twist on that one.

Wha......how could someone even try that one.

[SpaceWolf13C]

maybe its cause im drunk but i dont know what the difference would be between ragnar joing a wolf lord and a wolf lord joining ragnar. i do know that someone tried using Ulriks slayer oath as a shooting buff. other thatn that i think everyone fought honorably. I'm pretty sure that those that did try to twist rules such as the one mentioned aren't real wolves anyways.

[Max_Dammit]

Darrell of beasts of war is one of those wolves that likes to miss use a dex.

 

Maxup on longfangs with ML and arjac with TDA wolfguard all thundershield and wolfclaw,

 

This last unit is one id like to build my self, it would be hell to get trough and arjac will be safe from all kind of attacks

[dragon950]

My friend was palying against one today and the guy told him that rune priests come with a belt of russ/ Iron Halo. This same guy decided to play orcs and asked people to give him orc models, then demons and asked for demon models, the space marines and asked for models. Now he wants to play wolves.

[Hfran Morkai]

People trying to claim Frost Blades stacking, people who should know the rules better than the forgivable newcomer to the game.

[Spacefrisian]

Darrell of beasts of war is one of those wolves that likes to miss use a dex.

 

Maxup on longfangs with ML and arjac with TDA wolfguard all thundershield and wolfclaw,

 

This last unit is one id like to build my self, it would be hell to get trough and arjac will be safe from all kind of attacks

 

 

Darrel is everyones bashing pole if you ask me, Using jumppack rules on Terminators.....

[Prot]

Well if you ask some people (especially newer people) I think some will tell you Jaws is just outright wrong and players who take it are of a certain ilk.

 

Personally I think Jaws became a necessity out of some of the nasty stuff individual models do to some armies. Call it a result of codex creep or people putting TOO much into that one 'god-like' character.

 

One prime example is the Daemons FateWeaver. This single model can make the army omnipotent in the right hands. Lose that one (expensive) model? The army is very different (typically).

 

Oddly enough on a sidenote, I play against a Fateweaver using Daemon player often, and he's taken to using the Spawn power, which is kind of like Jaws but in a way it's more powerful! You can't defend against it... period. And it has happened to me in close combat against the beast!!!

 

No one says boo about it, but it is extremely potent.... nothing like having your Wolf Guard turn into a spawn, start attacking your own guys, and make your Grey Hunters fail a leadership! Ouch.

[Mr. Danvers]

That comment about the Fateweaver is spot on. Ran into a double daemons list in a doubles tournament, and it made everything pretty hard to kill.

 

Also, just be aware that he has Ld 9 and not 10 like the other greater daemons. Sadly I missed that one by not asking to see the book when they were 'totally positive' he had Ld 10 when they rolled 10 for Ld. Just to make it worse, it was an unsaved Lascannon to the face on turn 1 and he would have gone from the board if I'd checked. It cost me the game by not asking for the proof, seeing as the amount of things that remained alive with their inv reroll....

 

JoWW is a good power, I just find that only people who play armies that don't get an equivalent just complain about it. But then again, that's just our hobby all over isnt it? Painting and whining? :) I've not actually used it in any list so far, I much prefer Living Lightning and Murderous Hurricane.

 

EDIT: When I said 'equivalent' about JoWW, I meant an equivalent level of power, not something that does the same thing. Just to clarify ;).

[skoll]

People trying to claim Frost Blades stacking, people who should know the rules better than the forgivable newcomer to the game.

 

well they should >:wacko:

[JamesI]

I think every new codex sees people trying to bend the rules to fit what they want them to say. Its happened every codex as long as I've been playing this game, and probably longer.

[Grimtooth]

I am just saying I see far less SW players trying to do that then other codex players.

[Stormbrow II]

Darrel is everyones bashing pole if you ask me

Darrell is actually really nice IRL. I came up against him in a tournament in January (here you go) and he was great craic to play: the 4 other people he played against said the same thing. I was asking him about BOW and he was saying that he likes to take the piss a bit when he's on it, which explains some of his rules shenanigans (think of the Lightning Claw/Plasma Pistol episode), but he was spot on in our game.

 

arjac with TDA wolfguard all thundershield and wolfclaw

Tough as old boots that unit. They're a bit pricey though.

[Spacefrisian]

Thats what Justin ment with 175 hours of quality vids, excluding the stuff Darrell puts up

[Simo429]

personally I think that trying to claim that you get a free melta if you have a flamer and a melta is bending the rules.

[elithren]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

[Simo429]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

[Schertenleib]

I do find the stuff that Darrell puts out interesting and many times helpful. Though you might want to double check some of his facts.

 

Example: Darrell's video on JOWW says that it works on Jump Infantry as nothing in 40K truly flies. Jump Infantry are therefore Infantry for the purpose of JOWW.

[Donutzot]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

I do that all the time and there has never been any problem on a tournament with the free melta

[Simo429]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

I do that all the time and there has never been any problem on a tournament with the free melta

So if you want a plasma and a melta you only pay 5 points because you write the melta down first?

 

Its rules lawyering at best to get extra points out of an army list.

[Donutzot]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

I do that all the time and there has never been any problem on a tournament with the free melta

So if you want a plasma and a melta you only pay 5 points because you write the melta down first?

 

Its rules lawyering at best to get extra points out of an army list.

no I take a flamer and a melta

[Simo429]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

I do that all the time and there has never been any problem on a tournament with the free melta

So if you want a plasma and a melta you only pay 5 points because you write the melta down first?

 

Its rules lawyering at best to get extra points out of an army list.

no I take a flamer and a melta

yes it was a hypothetical situation, its the same thing though.

[Donutzot]

Bare in mind the second weapon doesn't come from the fact they have another weapon, it comes from the fact that it comes from having 10 hunters in the squad. From the codex: "If the squad numbers ten models, a second Grey Hunter may replace his bolter with a weapon from the above list at no additional cost."

but as when you write the list you buy both at the same time I feel that its rules lawyering to get two free weapons.

I do that all the time and there has never been any problem on a tournament with the free melta

So if you want a plasma and a melta you only pay 5 points because you write the melta down first?

 

Its rules lawyering at best to get extra points out of an army list.

no I take a flamer and a melta

yes it was a hypothetical situation, its the same thing though.

yeah but its not rule lawyering to use stuff GW has put at our disposal