grayghost Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Did I miss a bullet upping the DA Land Raider's capacity to twelve, or did that not happen? Maybe I should just count myself lucky they got an update. Sorry if this is a repost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Did I miss a bullet upping the DA Land Raider's capacity to twelve, or did that not happen? Maybe I should just count myself lucky they got an update. Sorry if this is a repost. There was no such update. And for whatever reason, I believe newer codices only have 10 as well. Maybe in the future C:SM will go back to 10. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzap88 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Did I miss a bullet upping the DA Land Raider's capacity to twelve, or did that not happen? Maybe I should just count myself lucky they got an update. Sorry if this is a repost. Only the crusader can have 12 models (6 in termi armour) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Did I miss a bullet upping the DA Land Raider's capacity to twelve, or did that not happen? Maybe I should just count myself lucky they got an update. Sorry if this is a repost. Only the crusader can have 12 models (6 in termi armour) I thought the Crusader was 16 models, 8 in Termi armor. C:DA pg.35 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingin Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 The Space Marine Codex, has the ability to have 12 models in their land raider, and crusader like 16 or so. The Rules for ours has not been FAQed, like thunder hammer and storm shield was clearly. So basicly we get stuck with 10 were others have 12 I know, wish I didn't buy Generic Land Raider... oh well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 The Space Marine Codex, has the ability to have 12 models in their land raider, and crusader like 16 or so. The Rules for ours has not been FAQed, like thunder hammer and storm shield was clearly. So basicly we get stuck with 10 were others have 12 I know, wish I didn't buy Generic Land Raider... oh well. As has already been mentioned above, only C:SM has basic Land Raiders with a transport capacity of 12, in every other Marine list they can only carry 10. The only Land Raider with a transport capacity of 12 (in the lists its actually in) is the Redeemer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 The Space Marine Codex, has the ability to have 12 models in their land raider, and crusader like 16 or so. The Rules for ours has not been FAQed, like thunder hammer and storm shield was clearly. So basicly we get stuck with 10 were others have 12 I know, wish I didn't buy Generic Land Raider... oh well. As has already been mentioned above, only C:SM has basic Land Raiders with a transport capacity of 12, in every other Marine list they can only carry 10. The only Land Raider with a transport capacity of 12 in every list its in is the Redeemer. OK, lets break the multiple LR transport capacity down; I am just looking at the current C:DA, C:SM, C:BA. I haven't any others to reference, I'll only mention total Troop capability. If any of you can add to this, please do so. C:DA V4, pg.34 LR = 10 LRC = 16 C:SM V5, pg.82 LR = 12 LRC = 16 LRR = 12 C:BA V5, , pg.91 Note: Dedicated Transport, not HS LR = 12 LRC = 16 LRR = 12 As a dedicated DW player (since V4) I am happy to use many LRC's. So whats the problem? Now, yes having an IC ( Chappi, Libbi) attached to a random DW Sqd is good in a LR. And I got over it. Yes I will be in the forefront of wondering why a basic STC as the LR in its variations will have different troop loads. So that bring up a different question. Why does GW make different Vehicles, weapons, wargear act differently across the Astartes? Maybe I should start a new thread: GW, you need to qualify your absurd rules inside of each chapter, and why they are relevant for that chapter. Lets see if there is anybody within GW that can answer the question. I can tell right now their (GW) pucker factor has tightened up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Landrain Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 C:BA V5, , pg.91 Note: Dedicated Transport, not HSLR = 12 My Coidex says 10 as Madoc said... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 C:BA V5, , pg.91 Note: Dedicated Transport, not HSLR = 12 My Coidex says 10 as Madoc said... Yep you are right, I made a cut and paste error (two pints of Meade maybe)... And that still doesn't negate my question. Why does GW make different Vehicles, weapons, wargear act differently across the Astartes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 It's a good question. It has long been a vexation for me. In my opinion, for same name weapons and wargear to differ across a range of the Atartes books is almost beyond comprehension ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2749968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingin Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 thats true good point. Just wish didn't have to spend money on geting 2 or so LRC for DeathWIng army :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2750067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 thats true good point. Just wish didn't have to spend money on geting 2 or so LRC for DeathWIng army ;) Only two, you need at least four ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2751190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I may be mistaken but I believe one of the designers did say at some point that the capacity of 12 was a bad idea that they'd decided not to run with (like Scouts as Elites). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2751992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 It's a good question. It has long been a vexation for me. In my opinion, for same name weapons and wargear to differ across a range of the Atartes books is almost beyond comprehension ^_^ Isn't it because the books are released at different times? They have different authors and ideas on how a piece of wargear should work, especially after its had a couple of years in action to determine if it fits. That's what I think at least, everything seems to fit the same general pattern, its just different dependent upon when the Codex came out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2751995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 its just different dependent upon when the Codex came out. That's not a reason, that's an excuse <_< . There is no reason why same-name wargear items should differ from one Atartes Codex to the next - Chapter-specific items are a different kettle of fish obviously. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2751999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 its just different dependent upon when the Codex came out. That's not a reason, that's an excuse <_< . There is no reason why same-name wargear items should differ from one Atartes Codex to the next - Chapter-specific items are a different kettle of fish obviously. Cheers I So there should be no progress in Wargear whatsoever? Everything should still be the same as the first Space Marine Codex? I don't like the same wargear conferring different bonuses depending on when your Codex came out but its what happens unless GW change their design philosophy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 its just different dependent upon when the Codex came out. That's not a reason, that's an excuse <_< . There is no reason why same-name wargear items should differ from one Atartes Codex to the next - Chapter-specific items are a different kettle of fish obviously. Cheers I So there should be no progress in Wargear whatsoever? Everything should still be the same as the first Space Marine Codex? I don't like the same wargear conferring different bonuses depending on when your Codex came out but its what happens unless GW change their design philosophy. So you think that C:SM's 12 capacity was a test and will be changed to 10 to match the latest Marine codices as that is obviously the direction they are heading? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 So you think that C:SM's 12 capacity was a test and will be changed to 10 to match the latest Marine codices as that is obviously the direction they are heading? I do believe that is the case, considering Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Grey Knights follow the same pattern. Also I'd like to point out that 5th Edition Codex: Space Marines, Blood Angels and Grey Knights are all penned by the same author as well. I genuinely believe come 6th Edition Codex: Space Marines (and any other new Space Marine books) will feature Land Raiders with a capacity of ten models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_esquire Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The difference in capacity explained is ..... just more bling DA, Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Grey Knights have more feathers/robes, pelts/bones, blood drops/ornamentation, swords/supplices respectively. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithior Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 It's cause their ego's take up more space inside =O Lithior Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 It's cause their ego's take up more space inside =O Lithior Than Ultramarines?? :wub: (That was entirely in jest, no offence meant to the Ultramarines players) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithior Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Touché brother =D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2752251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Landrain Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 thats true good point. Just wish didn't have to spend money on geting 2 or so LRC for DeathWIng army Only two, you need at least four Four? Need 20 Godhammer, or 13 crusaders. .. but then all of us aren't crazy enough to have an entire deathwing....n Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2753822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Four?Need 20 Godhammer, or 13 crusaders. .. but then all of us aren't crazy enough to have an entire deathwing....n Ah, but that's what teleport and Deathwing Assault is for, my good man! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2753830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Raziel Secundus Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 As a strickly Deathwing player, any capacity over 6 is superflous... since the squad size got restricted I rarely use my LRC's choosing instead to DWA. It's a shame really because I have 5 now and they just gather dust. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229183-land-raider-capacity/#findComment-2754255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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