LostAlone Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hey guys I'm just getting back into 40k after a pretty long break, and decided to put together a marine force. I was real happy to see that you can put heavy flamers into veteran squads (I used to play Catachans and Orks and I LOVE flamers) but it seems unlikely that we'll actually get a model for that, which leaves me in a pickle. Although they aren't for every game, I figure it'd be useful to have one or two ready to trade into my veterans squads for those occasions when you need to take the fight to a horde army. Anyways, I've been looking around both in the standard model line and at forge world, and I just can't find anything that really fits the bill. Im fairly sure that the LotD, SoB and IG heavy flamers are both 'single piece' style models and would be seriously difficult to remove, so that leaves me with modding an existing weapon into a flamer, or scratch building one. Off the top of my head, I was thinking that just taking a multi-melta, lopping off the melta-style barrels and adding a heavy flamer spout from a termies kit, but I think it would look kinda cheap, and not particularly like an assault weapon. Alternatively, I though that maybe I could build from a regular marine melta-gun, build it up with greenstuff to make it more 'chunky', make a barrel arrangement from scratch to look like a bigger front end of the regular flamer (that shouldn't be too hard, just brass rod) and then a nozzle either taken from another infantry heavy flamer (though I really don't want to have to buy the model just for the spout) or just built... I figure that emulating the marine regular flamer nozzle won't be too tough, since it's just flat with holes. Then add fuel flasks (maybe melta bombs ?). This would be stretching my sculpting abilities I think, but it seems doable that way. I just don't know if it would particularly clear that it was a heavy flamer *sigh*. Anyways, what do you guys think ? If you were doing this conversion, how would you approach it ? Any ideas/suggestions on how to get something that really looks the part, rather than an obviously cannableised other weapon would be really great appreciated! I'm an ok converter, but without an obvious place to lift the flamer from, I'm coming up flat. Particularly, the only weapon that strikes me as being in the right pose for a heavy flamer (slung low at the waist) is the devastator heavy bolter, and that would take hellaconverting to turn into a flamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorne Worny Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have done the exact same thing taking the plasitc multi-melta from the dev box chopping off the melta end bit and putting on the dreadnaughts heavy flamer nozzle bit onto the multi-melta and to make it more assaulting like the guy had assault marine legs to make him running,etc. But then I needed the 10pts so removed the HF for a normal stern vet. Overal the conversion if done fine makes a perfect plastic heavy flamer SM. My converson consisted off: Assault marine legs. Dev Multi melta minus end bit. Dreadnaught HF end bit. Normal SM pads, body an head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAlone Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 I have done the exact same thing taking the plasitc multi-melta from the dev box chopping off the melta end bit and putting on the dreadnaughts heavy flamer nozzle bit onto the multi-melta and to make it more assaulting like the guy had assault marine legs to make him running,etc. But then I needed the 10pts so removed the HF for a normal stern vet. Overal the conversion if done fine makes a perfect plastic heavy flamer SM. My converson consisted off: Assault marine legs. Dev Multi melta minus end bit. Dreadnaught HF end bit. Normal SM pads, body an head. *sigh* How did I overlook the dread heavy flamer ? Thats the exact look that I want, just needs to be hooked up to something else. Ok, that makes the whole ordeal a whole lot easier I think ;) I've seen a few done with terminator flamers and it looks decidedly second-edition (with the cone style flamers), but the dread flamer on the MM should work great. Might remove a few cables and add fuel flasks, but otherwise. You're a gentleman and a scholar *bows* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 There are other ways of doing it, too, if you want something more understated. Termi heavy flamer (including the arm) cut and positioned at the shoulder joint to look like the Legion of the Damned one. Metal Sisters of Battle Heavy Flamer, bit harder to get now but has a 'lighter' look to it that can better represent the 'assault' setting even though the description says 'Heavy' flamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 There are a few ways you can do it: As described - using the multi-melta as a base and add a heavy flamer to the front - in this case, I used the Terminator Heavy Flamer front: http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/bannus/P4180036_edited-1-1.jpg Here is a conversion using the Terminator Heavy Flamer in its entirety: http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/bannus/P4180037_edited-1-1.jpg I'm also going to try a conversion similar to the second one, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayeL Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I had an idea and it should look ok. I bought a box of Grey Knights in PA to convert into Librarians because I don't like the current metal ones and as I was looking at the sprues i thought I could use green stuff and fill in the writing on the Incinerator and use it as a heavy flamer for my Sternguard squad. What does everyone else think, does it say Heavy Flamer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I reckon so! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERZERKER! Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 There is also, if you know of any bitz sites that will stock metal components, the LotD heavy flamer. I just had a look at the sites i usually use, and can't see it anywhere. I'm not sure if its a one pice model... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2752758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 This is what I did: http://b.imagehost.org/t/0491/DSC00371.jpghttp://b.imagehost.org/t/0590/DSC00372.jpg Tutorial. WotF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2753186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Here is the pair that I made. I used the lascannon figure, cut off the barrel, and added the heavy flamer bit from my baneblade (since I made my baneblade with heavy bolters). I hope that helps. http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/2/8/182662_sm-Black%20Templars,%20Deathwatch,%20Heavy%20Flamer,%20Sternguard.JPG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2756122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I think the best heavy flamer conversion uses the terminator one, and some reposing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2759245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryJohnny Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Doing a nozzle swap on the Multi-Melta is an easy way to go & it doesn't look bad (IMO). It's what I did for my Sternguard: Don't forget about the one that GW did do for PA: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod350007a It may require a little filing but looks more assault weapon like than the Multi-Melta conversion I did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229401-marines-with-heavy-flamers/#findComment-2759809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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