Gv0zD Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hi, everybody! Just finished painting my first marine from my new army and I've chosen to follow the color scheme from Codex: Angels of Death. By the way, this is my first mini finished in 4 years. Looks like my skills haven't decreased after all :huh: The images are not of highest quality - made with my Nokia 5800, and with mediocre lightning, but all details are shown. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Yes, that is the best scheme. I prefer the wings to be gold, and probably the skull should be skull-coloured, but it is so much more inspiring than the current version. I wish they wouldn't change these things.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Yes, that is the best scheme. I prefer the wings to be gold, and probably the skull should be skull-coloured, but it is so much more inspiring than the current version. I wish they wouldn't change these things.... The wings are gold, it's my phone camera that makes them yellow :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Yeah that does look oldschool. I'll always paint the black edge on the shoulder pads, I actually think that the new way of painting them all red looks good but as I've been into 40k since the first edition I think I should honour that and paint them the way they were rather than the way they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Not a bad test mini at all. One innovation of the last couple of years you might find useful are better premade washes. I used blacklining for shading for a long time but have found that I can get much more dynamic and gradiated shading on my BAs with Badab Black. Actually takes the same amount of time as I don't have to be as careful. Something to think about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Angel Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I personally enjoy the new paint scheme, but that is probably because i started my angles about November or December of 2010. I enjoy the new color scheem, but my honer guard will have gold helmets, and my veterans will have orange. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 @ Brightguy: I actually used washes for blacklining, not Badab Black, however. But they didn't work too well so i had to paint the lines manually - hard and time-consuming, but it a great training for my hands -_- Anyway thanks for the idea and kind words! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 'blacklining'? I am not familiar with this term, what is it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightguy Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Shading recesses with black paint rather than darkened paint or a wash. Literally painting a black line in the armor joints and elsewhere to create the visual separation. Creates bold contrasts, but is fiddly as it's very easy to overpaint and require touch up work. Also not great at creating subtle gradations in my opinion. That said, looks good from a distance and popular for fast tabletop quality painting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I actually think that the new way of painting them all red looks good but as I've been into 40k since the first edition I think I should honour that and paint them the way they were rather than the way they are. Actually RT made a big issue out of full dress uniform vs campaign scheme, the former had black trims but they were often omitted from the latter: http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/ba1st.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Shading recesses with black paint rather than darkened paint or a wash. Literally painting a black line in the armor joints and elsewhere to create the visual separation. Creates bold contrasts, but is fiddly as it's very easy to overpaint and require touch up work. Also not great at creating subtle gradations in my opinion. That said, looks good from a distance and popular for fast tabletop quality painting. As I said, I tried washes, but the effect was not very satisfactory. Black paint creates the desired contrast, but overpainting is an issue. I had to apply another layer of red to correct the excess of black paint. But overall I am very satisfed with the result. The model looks great on the table and up close too. The phone's flash is too bright nd spoils the colors, but this all I have now ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fury Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Very nice G O D! Wait...?: this is my first mini finished in 4 years.Say it ain't so!!! You had better get some paint and maybe some flock on that base, and then on with the next! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2752996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Thanks a lot! It's so good to see such positive reaction! Yep, it's my first mini in 4 years or so ;) As for te base, I wanna make it look like asphalt or concrete, i.e. city landscape. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2753005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I love old school and still use it myself. The only 'moderisation' I use is that the yellow is now gold. Shining gold with a devlan mud wash and the skulls are usually silver with a black wash. It is a little like the ultramarines update that they recieved for 4th edition. Basically I think that the black trim breaks up the red and the gold adds a little life. Super easy to paint too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2753234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If the wings are gold the colour scheme is perfect (i was looking at it on my lap-top and the colour comes out poorly). I have only recently discovered how good Devlan mud is as a wash for metalic gold. I think it works beatifully with the designs like the wings and gold chains where there are lots of shadowed areas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2753429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 If the wings are gold the colour scheme is perfect (i was looking at it on my lap-top and the colour comes out poorly). I have only recently discovered how good Devlan mud is as a wash for metalic gold. I think it works beatifully with the designs like the wings and gold chains where there are lots of shadowed areas. Well, I was experimenting with different types of gold actually. The skulls on bolter, helmet and backpack are painted with Shining Gold over Bestial Brown, so the color there is deep. The chest eagle was painted firstly with Blazing Orange, then a mix of Blazing Orange and Golden Yellow and only then was drybruhed with Shining Gold - I wanted to have brighter gold, almost metallic yellow. And the flash made it look simply yellow ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2753625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 If the wings are gold the colour scheme is perfect (i was looking at it on my lap-top and the colour comes out poorly). I have only recently discovered how good Devlan mud is as a wash for metalic gold. I think it works beatifully with the designs like the wings and gold chains where there are lots of shadowed areas. Leviathan purple is amazing over gold too, you have to try it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2757271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Leviathan purple is amazing over gold too, you have to try it. Sorry a bit off-topic but... Really? Do you have any pictures of that to share? I'm trying to piece together how that would look in my head and failing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2757278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Leviathan purple is amazing over gold too, you have to try it. Sorry a bit off-topic but... Really? Do you have any pictures of that to share? I'm trying to piece together how that would look in my head and failing. I don't have any pics yet, a friend who works at my LGW told me about it for painting gold armour! I'm painting Dante today so I'll take some pics if I remember. EDIT: I think it may be a typical GW technique but I'm not sure, it doesn't actually look purple I don't think, it just looks good for a contrast. As far as I can remember I'm sure he said to undercoat with chaos black then base with calthan brown (although I'm not sure if he said to do this or just go straight on with the gold) then paint the model shining gold (I'll probably dry brush) then use leviathan purple to get into the recesses and then highlight with burnished gold and a 1:1 mix of burnished gold and mithril silver on the places where the light would hit. Hope this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2757293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Uriah Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 1Drop, thanks for that, I'll give it a go! :thanks: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2757306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 1Drop, thanks for that, I'll give it a go! :thanks: Cool.. When I think about it, it's probably a good idea to base with the calthan first, but I dunno, what do you think? EDIT: it's chaos black undercoat then straight on with the shining gold according to the GW tutorial, I still don't remember if he said to base it with calthan brown first or not, I'm pretty sure he did. EDIT: I'm painting my Dante now and I undercoater with chaos black spray then based with calthan brown and I'm onto the shining gold now and I must say that the calthan really does add some extra depth so I would advise to use the brown foundation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229414-test-ba-tactical-marine/#findComment-2757309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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