Grandmaster Anaziel Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How much money would it take to convince you to battle Leman Russ? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 How much money to fight a fictional character? Well not that much, since he doesn't exist so he can't hurt me. I'd do it for free. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Assuming it was possible to be placed in the same arena as Russ - there would be never enough money to make me do it. It's a bit like Enuff Dakka. It doesn't exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRCHAOS Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thats just like saying how much would you pay me to kill myself! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Anaziel Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Assuming it was possible to be placed in the same arena as Russ - there would be never enough money to make me do it. It's a bit like Enuff Dakka. It doesn't exist. I must say I agree with you! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 If I could use that money and pay somebody else a small percentage, like Angron, then I'd do it. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Not sure really, either: 1. Do it for free to prove how superior I am.. or 2. Ask for lots of £££, then split it with Russ so he doesnt kill me and we all live happily ever after, Oceans 11 style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talizen Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Oh Russ would totally take Angron down. Angron is pure aggression, whereas even-though portrayed as a savage, Russ was cunning and smart. That and I'm sure if Russ kept out of Angron's reach and kept taunting him, Angron's head would eventually explode from the rage and blood pressure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Give me the Emperor and I'll show you a defeated Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Kezek Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If he was drunk and I get to use a warlord titan, I would give it a shot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodai78 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Ask Bruce Banner, he might fight Russ if you piss him off enough about it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjace Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The chance to drink with him afterwords, in the fang, and become a spacewolf. -Im of age!- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If he was drunk and I get to use a warlord titan, I would give it a shot. You'd need more than that, brother. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2752953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Oh Russ would totally take Angron down. Angron is pure aggression, whereas even-though portrayed as a savage, Russ was cunning and smart. That and I'm sure if Russ kept out of Angron's reach and kept taunting him, Angron's head would eventually explode from the rage and blood pressure. I think that's more failure to properly portray Angron than what he really is. Just as Russ as seen as a beer-swilling barbarian, I think Angron is pigeon-holed into the mindless berzerker where he was more the practical stone-cold killer - Why get fancy when you can kick in the door and kill the enemy just as dead as Guilliman's fancy tactics? I think when the World Eater's book comes out they'll play up the fact that this was a guy who survived years in the most brutal of pit fights, rebelled, formed an army, managed said army, was able to maneuver tactically against forces superior in both numbers and equipment, win on the field, and just generally be an all around swell killing machine instead of being 'the really, really angry one.' I think it would be a fantastic fight as they both seem to be mirror's of each other. They are probably equally matched in all aspects, and both of them are way more than the image they portray to onlookers. Hell, now I really hope they do end up clashing in the years before Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unintentional Batman Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I'd fight Shatner... I must disagree with the notion that Russ could beat Angron in a fight. Angron is just better, stronger, combatant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorkle Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Angron survived in the pits because he's a primarch. Nothing short of another Primarch is gonna kill him. I don't see his survival as a great accomplishment. In his short story he seemed pretty simple. Not at all on the same level as the other primarchs though in all fairness it is just a short story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Oh Russ would totally take Angron down. Douuuubt ittttt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyall Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Angron failed to escape the pits once, if I recall correctly, so we can assume his captors possessed enough in the way of enforcers to bring down an unarmoured Primarch. So what Mykra said makes perfect sense. He didn't survive just because he's a Primarch, I'm sure his masters threw hellish challenges at the poor chap, so it's safe to say Angron's fought all manner of opponents and, no matter how "simple" you find him, he's sure to have memorized all the different techniques on an instinctual level. As to his mindset, the man's obviously not a Lorgar, as far as meditation goes, but there's no such thing as a simple human - and Primarchs were superlative humans. His brain was permanentely getting jolted to aggression, so for him not to keep his bloodlust for his enemies must have taken a brutal measure of self-control, especially when he'd rather have died with his first companions than join his father's forces. For a warrior, betrayal (what the Emperor made Angron do to his comrades) is pretty much unmatched as far as sins go. I digress, sorry for going off-topic. Why fight Leman Russ when we can all spend a night drinking cold beer from mugs the size of a man's chest? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I'd spend the money on getting Lorgar into the arena. I'd then put my ex-wife in there with him, and let her talk him to death. Easy win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epistolary Exander Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 In "After Desh'ea" Khârn sees Angron imagining some denfensive works designed by Purturabo & how the Imperial forces defended their positions against their enemies on the planet in question. The World Eaters themselves were pictued using ambush tactics against the Thousand Sons in "Rebirth", so it is believable that the Angron did employ a vareity of tactics when neccessary before his complete fall to Khorne. Admittedly Angron appears to not have used subtle tactics against the Raven Guard in "Raven's Flight", but he didnt need to use such tactics. He had an army outnumbering the Raven Guard by about a dozen to one & he believed the Raven Guard had no hope of escape, so he could butcher Corax & his marines at his own leisure. Who wouldnt if you were a bitter gladiator in such a position? :) There is no doubt in my mind that Angron was capable of finesse tactics at some point in his life. Angron may have lost his ability to control his anger & therefore think clearly enough to use subtle tactics at some point during/ after the Heresy, but during the current novels he would be atleast be able to go toe to toe with Leman Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Nothing under the stars could make me fight Russ... on Russ vs Angron, i dont honestly know who would win. both are extremely capable in hand to hand combat, both have shwon some cunning, and both scare the crap out of me. if russ fought angron, i demand a LARGE bowl of popcorn. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Id fight him, but id need terminator armour 2 power fists and a 100% guarantee he wouldnt kill me. (granted im going to lose alot of blood and organs) but if youve got the chance to fight the wolf lord and live to tell the tale you would be one bad ass dude! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Oh Russ would totally take Angron down. Angron is pure aggression, whereas even-though portrayed as a savage, Russ was cunning and smart. That and I'm sure if Russ kept out of Angron's reach and kept taunting him, Angron's head would eventually explode from the rage and blood pressure. I think that's more failure to properly portray Angron than what he really is. Just as Russ as seen as a beer-swilling barbarian, I think Angron is pigeon-holed into the mindless berzerker where he was more the practical stone-cold killer - Why get fancy when you can kick in the door and kill the enemy just as dead as Guilliman's fancy tactics? I think when the World Eater's book comes out they'll play up the fact that this was a guy who survived years in the most brutal of pit fights, rebelled, formed an army, managed said army, was able to maneuver tactically against forces superior in both numbers and equipment, win on the field, and just generally be an all around swell killing machine instead of being 'the really, really angry one.' I think it would be a fantastic fight as they both seem to be mirror's of each other. They are probably equally matched in all aspects, and both of them are way more than the image they portray to onlookers. Hell, now I really hope they do end up clashing in the years before Terra. Think I've already read that one... its called Spartacus isnt it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I could fight Russ. All I need is a full flagon of Fenrisian Ale on me at the time. Russ would never do anything that would result in spilt alcohol. We would stare aat each other for a few minutes before a single word word escape from my lips, to be repeated by Russ. "Pub?" "Pub." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Think I've already read that one... its called Spartacus isnt it? "Everything comes from somewhere else, it's all in how you tell it." - Neil Gaiman. I think the story of Spartacus of the World Eaters has a lot of legs for a really good story, personally. I also agree with the previous poster that I have no clue who would win vs Angron or the Wolf King, but it would be a hell of a fun fight to watch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/#findComment-2753776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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