DV8 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 As much as I am a Space Wolf player, my money would be on Angron. Physically he's the biggest and strongest of the Primarchs, and while one on one Russ is probably the one Primarch who stands a chance against him, Angron's implants (his aggression, and the ability to rage past pain and personal injury to defeat his enemy) would secure Angron's victory. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2756155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 As much as I am a Space Wolf player, my money would be on Angron. Physically he's the biggest and strongest of the Primarchs, and while one on one Russ is probably the one Primarch who stands a chance against him, Angron's implants (his aggression, and the ability to rage past pain and personal injury to defeat his enemy) would secure Angron's victory. DV8 There is no info about Angron being biggest or the strongest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2756174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I could fight Russ. All I need is a full flagon of Fenrisian Ale on me at the time. Russ would never do anything that would result in spilt alcohol. We would stare aat each other for a few minutes before a single word word escape from my lips, to be repeated by Russ. "Pub?" "Pub." Great plan. ;) Then you'd be able to boast that you fought Leman Russ to a draw...and probably add that afterwards he drunk you under the table. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2756216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykra Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 As much as I am a Space Wolf player, my money would be on Angron. Physically he's the biggest and strongest of the Primarchs, and while one on one Russ is probably the one Primarch who stands a chance against him, Angron's implants (his aggression, and the ability to rage past pain and personal injury to defeat his enemy) would secure Angron's victory. DV8 There is no info about Angron being biggest or the strongest. Horus and Magnus were the largest of the Primarch's if I recall correctly. In Raven's Flight however, Angron was called the strongest of them, and it was said only Horus and Sanguinius could take him in single combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2756643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'd take Chuck Norris. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2756983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 As much as I am a Space Wolf player, my money would be on Angron. Physically he's the biggest and strongest of the Primarchs, and while one on one Russ is probably the one Primarch who stands a chance against him, Angron's implants (his aggression, and the ability to rage past pain and personal injury to defeat his enemy) would secure Angron's victory. DV8 Im told Leman Russ defeated Horus, one of 3 to do so. Hes definitely up there, and Id pit him head to head with mortal angron any day of the week. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2757033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Horus and Magnus were the largest of the Primarch's if I recall correctly. In Raven's Flight however, Angron was called the strongest of them, and it was said only Horus and Sanguinius could take him in single combat. In Forgotten Sons Vulkan and Ferrus are said to be the strongest ones. I don't really care if Angron is strongest though, just pointing out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2757227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epistolary Exander Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Horus and Magnus were the largest of the Primarch's if I recall correctly. In Raven's Flight however, Angron was called the strongest of them, and it was said only Horus and Sanguinius could take him in single combat. In Forgotten Sons Vulkan and Ferrus are said to be the strongest ones. I don't really care if Angron is strongest though, just pointing out. Corax was certainly convinced Angron was going to kill him "Raven's Flight" & to top that off he survived a tectonic mine in "False Gods". Angron would be able to go through the enitre 12 rounds & again with Russ without any problems, with or without Freki & Geri getting in on the act, If anything I think Angron & Russ would learn a thing or 2 from the other's fighting style. Would Russ be bringing his 2 dogs to the fight with him? Maybe Russ should leave them home where Kurze leave's his Night Haunter?. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2757791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beevers Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hang on, doesnt it say in Horus Rising that Leman Russ is the strongest primarch? Doesnt Sigismund say this? Or at least something along those lines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2949525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfkry Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 no that argument is about what legion is toughest and the space wolves are cuz we are all insane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2949534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hang on, doesnt it say in Horus Rising that Leman Russ is the strongest primarch? Doesnt Sigismund say this? Or at least something along those lines. Torgaddon says they are crazy. That's it. Russ is pretty tough though, breaking the back of the most powerful psyker in existence after Emperor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2949535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Lion El'Johnson once fought (some versions say wrestled) Russ for a day and a night with no victor. Russ, being Russ, started laughing and Johnson knocked the Wolf out. When Johnson is fighting Curze in the HH Novels, Curze admits that he could never match Johnson's skills, but that Johnson had never really had to fight for his life and resorts to some underhanded moves to defeat Johnson. There are some lessons here: Russ wasn't significantly strong enough to best Johnson, so if Russ was the strongest, it wasn't by a lot. Curze admits that Johnson is the better warrior, but beats him anyway. Any primarch on any day, battlefield conditions playing a large role. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2949542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 When Johnson is fighting Curze in the HH Novels, Curze admits that he could never match Johnson's skills, but that Johnson had never really had to fight for his life and resorts to some underhanded moves to defeat Johnson. Jonson bested him in duel, Curze turned it to a brawl in which he excels. They were both skillfull in different areas. But Jonson was the real underhanded one there stabbing Curze unprovoked. Well with a half assed excuse if it counts. As for Russ stalemating with Lion, due to their specializations and character i say Russ was having his fun while Jonson was serious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2949548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 what kind of idiot would fight a primarch? Russ wins all fights he has by far the most favor of the writers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2950700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Nothing since hes my Primarch ;) Five kegs of ale for anyone that could lay a blow on Russ :unsure: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2950841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodanshi Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 How much money would it take to convince you to battle Leman Russ? :mellow: I’d fight him for a tenner. I am proficient at God Hand Wrestling and would Dragon Kick his ass into the Milky Way… Milky Way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2950887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Hang on, doesnt it say in Horus Rising that Leman Russ is the strongest primarch? Doesnt Sigismund say this? Or at least something along those lines. Torgaddon says they are crazy. That's it. Russ is pretty tough though, breaking the back of the most powerful psyker in existence after Emperor. Prob with that though is that Magnus let himself be defeated..... as it says in 'Thousand Sons' he had ample opportunity to obliterate the Space Wolves before they even get to Prospero. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2951889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 As much as I believe 1vs1 Angron would take Russ...... (I mean Angron is Sparticus for christs sake) I believe Magnus to be the most powerful of the Primarchs, with his psychic ability he could snuff out any of his brothers. Lorgar is quoted several times saying that Magnus is the most powerful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2951891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shady Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 ADB touched on this on his blog. It's stupid to say Primarch A could beat Primarch B. It's not just the martial factors that someone needs to think about it's the frame of mind at that time, have they just came out of a battle? etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2951895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Russ wasn't significantly strong enough to best Johnson, so if Russ was the strongest, it wasn't by a lot. If you read the original fluff its states Russ was the stronger of the 2 with Johnson being slighlty faster hence the stale mate, besides Russ was not fighting for his life, If any of you guys have brother you will know the difference, Fights between brothers can be far more brutal than a fight with a random guy on the street, sibling fights just keep going on an on as there uis generally no fear that the other person is trying to kill you. As much as I believe 1vs1 Angron would take Russ...... (I mean Angron is Sparticus for christs sake) Well if Angron is Sparticus then that makes Russ Chuck Norris, and we all know who would win that fight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2951995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 ut Jonson was the real underhanded one there stabbing Curze unprovoked. Well with a half assed excuse if it counts. Yeah, he should've invited a traitor known for terror tactics and treachery for an honorable duel of gentlemen instead of delivering the first blow when it became obvious words had done all they could do. How dare he, the honourless lout. Next thing you know it, we're calling snipers and people who hit criminals who marked them as their prey first and run away as "underhanded". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2952112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 As much as I am a Space Wolf player, my money would be on Angron. Physically he's the biggest and strongest of the Primarchs, and while one on one Russ is probably the one Primarch who stands a chance against him, Angron's implants (his aggression, and the ability to rage past pain and personal injury to defeat his enemy) would secure Angron's victory. He definately is not the biggest but more than likely he is the strongest with the impants pushing strength and rage to levels way past that of most of the Primarchs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2952153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 ADB touched on this on his blog. It's stupid to say Primarch A could beat Primarch B. It's not just the martial factors that someone needs to think about it's the frame of mind at that time, have they just came out of a battle? etc etc This. You guys could sit here all day and throw facts back and forth and still not truly know who would best who. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2952190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Yeah, he should've invited a traitor known for terror tactics and treachery for an honorable duel of gentlemen instead of delivering the first blow when it became obvious words had done all they could do. How dare he, the honourless lout. Next thing you know it, we're calling snipers and people who hit criminals who marked them as their prey first and run away as "underhanded". Striking unprovoked and while your opponent is not ready is obviously underhanded. You don't need to get sensitive about it. It's not like i dissed Lion for it. I find it crafty and well thought infact. Just not honorable which is a luxury considering Imperius was at stake.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2952196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchCaptainAzrael Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Yeah, he should've invited a traitor known for terror tactics and treachery for an honorable duel of gentlemen instead of delivering the first blow when it became obvious words had done all they could do. How dare he, the honourless lout. Next thing you know it, we're calling snipers and people who hit criminals who marked them as their prey first and run away as "underhanded". Striking unprovoked and while your opponent is not ready is obviously underhanded. You don't need to get sensitive about it. It's not like i dissed Lion for it. I find it crafty and well thought infact. Just not honorable which is a luxury considering Imperius was at stake.. The Lion had intentionally walked into a trap so he could have a shot at Curze. Negotiations were a ruse from both parties, and if he had turned his eyes away from the enemy for one second, I don't think Curze would've been too concerned about "honorably" slitting the Lion's throat. Heck, the reason he walked into the trap in the first place was because the Night Lords never thought twice before retreating to fight another day whenever it became obvious they'd lose badly. And I get sensitive partly because I place an irrational importance on a fictional army, and partly because everyone and their mother seem to enjoy shoehorning treachery, sadism and all manner of unsavory characteristics into said fictional army while ignoring evidence to the contrary. Hence, my shooting first and asking questions later attitude. sorry ;) On topic: Curze would beat Leman Russ in a brawl, since Lion beat Russ in a brawl and Lion was defeated by Curze in one. Now let's all play "spot the fallacy":D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229419-to-battle-leman-russ/page/2/#findComment-2952208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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