Wulfebane Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 So, with the arrival of Logan Grimnar years ago, it suddenly became clear to the (atleast SW) players of this game that the more dynamic the model, the more impressive and the more presence they provoked on the table. However, with that came the dissatisfaction of the old Ragnar, Ulrik, and Njal models and their stagnant, lifeless poses. Thankfully, Njal has been updated, but encased in TDA. I am curious as to how you fellow wolfbrothers have updated the classics with pics of your own versions of the Ragnar, Ulrik, and Njal (power armor) models...or any others I've forgotten. To start, I'm submitting my current WiP model of Ragnar. I'll be out of town for a couple weeks and was eager to get this thread started, so he's not as complete as I'd like him, but w/e. C&C welcome. There's my old, painted Ragnar in the background for comparison. (Blurred on purpose.. yuck!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'm sure these are pretty familiar to most people here: WOLF LORD RAGNAR BLACKMANE, THE ALLSLAYER http://spacewithinspace.net/images/spacewolves/ragnarblackmane.jpg WOLF PRIEST ULRIK THE SLAYER http://spacewithinspace.net/images/warhammerimages/ulriktheslayer.jpg EDIT: Won't lie, Wulfenbane. Your Ragnar looks aawwwfuully familiar :drool: DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 @DV8: i never tire of looking at your work. especially your Ulrik. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 EDIT:Won't lie, Wulfenbane. Your Ragnar looks aawwwfuully familiar :drool: DV8 Hehe, I confess I had in fact seen your Ragnar before. It's what inspired me months ago to start this up. I went with Gabriel instead of Kor'sarro as the base b/c I liked his wide-swinging pose, and a chainsword that wouldn't take as much work.. plus his contorted face held a nice feral gleam. Yours is still beautiful and I hope mine will be up to snuff when it comes time to paint. Your Ulrik, though, is amazing. I hadn't seen it before now. I can't tell whether those nicks in the armor/helm are real or painted on, but they're perfect. Definitely gives the impression of one of the oldest in the chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 They're painted on. Ulrik is just made up of parts from the plastic sprue (with the original Ulrik's skull helm and Crozius); good 'ol smooth plastic. I simply re-posed him and true-scaled him. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Would you mind pointing out where you true-scaled him? I'm guessing you extended the torso both above and below the belt for starters, and added more neck? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The chest was bulked out a little, but not much height was added to him. Likewise, the arms are stock and the head sits in the same position. The trick to true-scaling is the legs. The standard marine-leaning pose, coupled with their already stocky legs, makes them far shorter than they actually should be! I simply cut the legs at all the joints (crotch, knees, and I cut the feet out) and reposition the model. Different parts get lengthened depending on the original legs. Here only the upper thighs were lengthened by about 2 or 3 mm. Coupled with the extra height gained from a more upright pose, coupled with the joints, gives him a more proportional height (he stands about a full head taller than the original Ulrik). http://spacewithinspace.net/images/wips/scale.jpg DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 That side-by-side pic is pure win. Thanks for the explanation! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 @DV8, haha I got pretty "passionate" the last I spoke about your Ulrik The Ulrik unfortunately doesn't stand in the ranks of my Great Company. It was a commission and has been at its new home for more than a year already (since the Golden Bolter competition).I don't care much about who has it now. IMHO, it's still your work, creativity and vision.. you made it, and its yours to claim as a hobbyist/artist forever. No matter who owns it now! I will still consider it as yours, as it is a great work of art. You sir, are a master with a black belt in this hobby hahaha keep up the good work! It's so hard to be original these days, but there is always plenty of inspiration to go all around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2756959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Would have suggested checking out DV8s stuff by see he went one better. Good work on yours too of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I truly thought we would get a second wave with a new Ragnar sculpt. DV8s is a beautiful version, can see why it has inspired several of us. Njal is not great bang for the buck so haven't seen any conversion of him in PA out there. As GW is winding down the metals, be interesting to see what they do with all the special characters. They could get redone by forge world or maybe get done as plastic kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Heard ForgeWorld was going to be shut down and integrated into GW directly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 They're painted on. Can you post some sort of painting guide thread on how to do such good-looking battle damage? It's something I'm really interested in doing on my models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Heard ForgeWorld was going to be shut down and integrated into GW directly. Where'd you hear that one? I'd be interested to see how that affects their business model if it happened, like no more crazy shipping from the UK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 And expensive postage charges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 The chest was bulked out a little, but not much height was added to him. Likewise, the arms are stock and the head sits in the same position. The trick to true-scaling is the legs. The standard marine-leaning pose, coupled with their already stocky legs, makes them far shorter than they actually should be! I simply cut the legs at all the joints (crotch, knees, and I cut the feet out) and reposition the model. Different parts get lengthened depending on the original legs. Here only the upper thighs were lengthened by about 2 or 3 mm. Coupled with the extra height gained from a more upright pose, coupled with the joints, gives him a more proportional height (he stands about a full head taller than the original Ulrik).DV8 love your model. my question is how did you remove his head so cleanly? i am trying to make my own wolf priest and have been sitting on it since i did not know how to do this without mutalating the model... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 DV8, may I ask where it is you came upon that wolf bit on the plasma gun? Greenstuffed? It seems it could pass for a lion and work for my own purposes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 DV8, may I ask where it is you came upon that wolf bit on the plasma gun? Greenstuffed? It seems it could pass for a lion and work for my own purposes. it's mounted on one of the bolters/boltguns/plasmagun of the SW sprue, can't recall which weapon immediatly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It's not a conversion at all. The standard Space Wolf sprue comes with a Plasma Pistol with that wolf on top. You can see it on the sprue on the GW site - first sprue pick, bottom right corner (it's upside down). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Why thank you. Hope I don't offend any of my wolf cousins by picking some up and calling it a lion :) Also, I love the conversion thus far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 It's okay. We know Space Wolf stuff is max awesomeness and other chapters will want to use it. :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublindawg Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I hope that FW rumor is not true as they just came out with some nice chaos dwarfs for the fantasy range that I may try to get at some point this summer. I would hate to see them shut down for any length of time and I have to wait until the fall to get my hands on them and other bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemePaul Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Here is a picture of my Ragnar Blackmane. Sword and head is original. Everything else is plastic or modeling putty: http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l137/GraemePaul/Space%20Wolves/RagnarBlackmane.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2757973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Awesome pose. Beautiful paint job. No offense though, my eyes went straight to that base. How in the world did you do that snow?? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2758013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 DV8: Where is a DV8ed pa~Njal, Arjak, 'regular sized' Ulrik and Logan? :devil: I know that you have a soft spot for Templars too, so you might as well do a Grimaldus whilst you're at it :P His proportions are wrong, which is a shame considering how formidable he is in Helsreach. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229678-old-school-ragnar-ulrik-and-njal/#findComment-2758160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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