fivepointedstar Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 My gaming friends and I came up with a planned game for next week with only using HQ's up to 1000 points. Game rules are can only use one unique caracter, and the rest have to be HQ. I'm not entirely sure what are good units to play, but i do know that codex Space Wolves has a lots to choice from. I'll proxy any thing so have at it. so far I've got a list like this Bjorn Wolf Lord w/ Thunder Wolf, Frost Weapon, Runic Armor, Belt of Russ, Saga of the Bear, Wolf tooth necklace. Rune Priest w/ Runic Armor, Wolf tooth necklace, plasma pistol, master of runes Wolf Priest w/ TDA, Wolf tooth necklace, saga of the beast slayer Wolf Guard Battle Leader w/ Thunder wolf, Runic Armor, total equals exactly 1000 points. If there are better list for this type of battle i could not find. please assist in any way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.darkness Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 i would spam rune priests with jaws if you want it to be as competitive as possible. if you can get 8 or maybe 9 rune priests then that is about 7 jaws lines so that is statistically 1 or 2 characters dead a turn at least, if not more if they have low I or roll badly. if you don't mind about the competetivenss then just take what you want. all sopace wolf characters are amazing so, just play what is cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Bjorn, Thunderlord, and Rune Priests would be how I played it, but that's just me. Besides, how many HQ's out there can take down a dread from range? :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Id take: Bjorn, with TLLC. Hunnin and Munnin- 2x WGBL with JP, WC, SS. Hasnal- Wolf Lord with Belt, pistol, TWM, SotB, WTT. Wolf Priest- JP, Runic Armor, PP. Rune Priest- JP, Murderous Hurricane, Tempests Wrath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Green Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'd be tempted to run all my TWC as lords and battle leaders on thunderwolves, wouldn't likely be very efficient, but it'd be awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 i would spam rune priests with jaws if you want it to be as competitive as possible. if you can get 8 or maybe 9 rune priests then that is about 7 jaws lines so that is statistically 1 or 2 characters dead a turn at least, if not more if they have low I or roll badly. if you don't mind about the competetivenss then just take what you want. all sopace wolf characters are amazing so, just play what is cool. better yet, you also have a while bunch of force weapons. Some will have eternal warrior, but not all. You could one shot at least a couple of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 But all those T4/I4 bodies with no invulnerable saves.... *shudder* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 there's always tda, plus use murderous hurricane to slow them down and storm caller to give cover saves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2757960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 dont forget that they will likely have a libarian at least... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2758298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 if i remember correctly one of my friends that plays SW will probably do allot of TWM lords. whats good to take them down ? Another will more than likely play either Chaos daemons, or blood angels. I'm mostly worried about TWM lords, and daemons, what Grey Mage stated looks promising but will it mess up a crazy list like daemon lords, or thunder mount lords? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2758935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The key to those kinds of fights is making sure your in the right place at the right time more than anything else- got TWM'd lords you need to deal with? try to get them to go for the Hive Tyrant instead.... etc etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2758959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 if someone is playing blood angels you stay the hell away from mephiston rerolls to it at strength 10 is not pretty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2760165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 I've got a stupid question but if a Wolf Lord with a thunder wolf mount, and equipped with a frost axe does that stack up to str 6? + 1 for mount to str 5 then add i frost axe to str 6? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2760992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I've got a stupid question but if a Wolf Lord with a thunder wolf mount, and equipped with a frost axe does that stack up to str 6? + 1 for mount to str 5 then add i frost axe to str 6? Yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2761013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger87 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hehehe, this format is probably fantastic for the Space Wolves, the first time I've heard of an all-HQ battle. Dark angels might also be well off with the Landraider-speeder :-D would be pretty hard to catch with all those footslogging HQs. Do let us know what happened, or better yet a full battle report. Should be a very interesting read :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2761796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 It happens this Thursday so in two days I'll have the batrep ready. so far my leader list is: Bjorn with twin las cannon wolf lord with thunder wolf mount, ss, frost axe, saga of bear, wolf tooth necklace, wolf tail. 2X wolf guard battle leaders with jp's, wolf claw, ss rune priest w/ master of the runes, runic armor, with murderous hurricane, and jaws of world wolf. total is 5 models on walker, one calvalry, 2 jump infantry, and one infantry. total comes to 1000 on the dot. rules are one special ( Bjorn) and all other non- unique. so I'm all set to battle for the HQ Leader Bash in 2 days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2762150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Not trying to rain on your parade, but does the "The Leaders of the Pack" rule still come into effect here? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2762157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 personaly, I'd go for murderous hurricane and fury of the wolf spirits, due to the ap2 of Geri... HQ choises usualy have a fairly nice Initiative. my list would be Njal, a Runepriest, a runepriest with saga of the beastslayer, a wolflord on thunderwolf with saga of the bear, a frost axe, a stormshield, runic armour and a wolftooth necklace, and a wolflord on thunderwolf with saga of the bear, stormshield, thunderhammer and wolftooth necklace Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2762160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 It happens this Thursday so in two days I'll have the batrep ready. so far my leader list is: Bjorn with twin las cannon wolf lord with thunder wolf mount, ss, frost axe, saga of bear, wolf tooth necklace, wolf tail. 2X wolf guard battle leaders with jp's, wolf claw, ss rune priest w/ master of the runes, runic armor, with murderous hurricane, and jaws of world wolf. total is 5 models on walker, one calvalry, 2 jump infantry, and one infantry. total comes to 1000 on the dot. rules are one special ( Bjorn) and all other non- unique. so I'm all set to battle for the HQ Leader Bash in 2 days. Got a points saver for you here man, you have master of Runes on your Rune Priest. Since both Murderous and Jaws are shooting attacks you can use only one or the other. Master of Runes let's you use two powers, but not two shooting powers. Lame. I know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2762789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 good call Nrthstar. I'll use something else. Oh by the way the game match was postponed due to a loss in the family it happens next week. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2766254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Alright this is the bat rep from yesterday's legendary HQ battle. i played against 2 other people my opponents where playing space wolves, and chaos daemons. I had not won the wolves play win since it would be UN-cool to battle SW -vs- SW so i lost the roll, and played SM instead. what i had was: Marneas Calgar 2 Chapter Master w/ jp, art armor, Relic weapon/ SS 2 librarians, one with TDA the other with PA. one had vortex/ gates of infinity, the other smite/ quickening. ( BTW) i pulled this list out of my @$$ last minute, had I known i was going to face this, I would have done a hellava lot better...) SW: 4 wolf lords w/ thunder wolves mount, TH/SS wolf tooth, saga of the bear. ie; knowing that the rules for this game were that only one unique character could be bought, I never asked that if multiple HQ of same design were allowed. my mistake in this is unforgivable, and my painting penitence has begun as of 12 midnight yesterday. please emperor forgive.. my other opponent hat chaos daemons: bloodthirster keeper of secrets 2 pleasure seekers 2 chariots of slannesh? so the roll of was done it was daemons -vs- wolves. Round one: SW player went first moved 6" forward. end of turn. ie. nothing to assault. next: Daemons player went, moved forward 6" for all greater daemons, then moved his chariots up 6"s moved over terrain and only moved 4" with the roll. Round two: SW player was now in range to move 6" then assault less than 12", now the battle was in play. Since the Wolf lords were at int 1 the daemons when to town. ( unfortunately the dice gods were not in his favor) He rolled hits, but only wounded 3 times! which were all saved due to storm shield. next the onslaught began with his 6 attacks on the charge the wolf lord murdered the foul chaos minions they were all but annihilated first wave of assault. the pleasure seekers were "poof" gone, and the chariots heck they ran for the hills. round Three: One left in that wave was the three greater daemons. Chaos turn rolled more hits but only wound one lord. the brutality against the warp followed as the blood thirster bite the dust. Next roll found the Keeper of secrets spilling his beans all over. the last might tub of goo only put up a measly last chance as he was surrounded by the quad wolf bullies, and giving a "bath" of a life time. End of the game for chaos next up was me. ( doom doom doom...) next game: SM -vs- SW Round one: I won the roll to go first so I made a mistake by moving my JP CM into wolf range. I left Marneas' back, and both Librarian's. Shot with marneas' orbital bomb, and missed to high hell. That! by the Emperor only pissed of the Lords. They moved forward 6", then ran another 4-5" then assaulted my CM's they were gone before they knew it. with one getting 4 wounds with a TH he lost his SS saves only by one but because of TH higher strength and without eternal warrior was " poofed" . the other not so lucky had 5 wounds, not one single invincible save on that one ( I still believe he was destined to die that round). Next round 2: the wolfs consolidated and then moved another 5" then assaulted into Marneas. my TDA libby gated the hell out of there 24' back towards my opponents edge. where only one wolf was caught up in terrain about 20" away he was waiting. the other libby tried to make the best by shooting with smite, which did nothing but rouse the hairs on the their fuzzy little heads. He got to use his quickening to go first but did nothing to scratch all the 3+ saves. Then hit some 5 times which in return he gladly died. Marneas did what marneas could do only taking 1 wounds from one wolf lord before being gang beaten by other two wolf lords . marneas crapped out in that line up. the wolf consolidated and moved to kill my tda libby. Round 3: the vortex did not hit it was off target the other wolfs came into range with in two rolld for a run, and my tda libby was clubbed to a plulp. that is not the best way to go.. ever. so in the end had i known that he had spammed thunder wolves i probably had done the same thing i will have to keep in mind next battle of the legends. game. ( which honestly i hope doesn't happen to soon as my "kester" is pretty sore from getting it kicked up and down the game table. hope that stirs good drunken dreams for the wolf lord riding wolfs with the bear saga in the fest hall that night. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229694-big-hq-battle-next-week-need-help/#findComment-2773644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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