Andrew J Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Hey does anyone know what scale tanks work for GW stuff? I seem to remember reading somewhere 1/35 worked pretty well. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azatoth Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Hey does anyone know what scale tanks work for GW stuff? I seem to remember reading somewhere 1/35 worked pretty well. Thanks in advance. No 1:35 is effectivly too big. I suggest you try 1:48, there are several companies selling 1:48 tank and aircraft models. TAMIYA for example has a very nice line of that scale. They also have walls, jerrycans and other diorama stuff in that scale. TAMIYA catalog Look for the 1:48 MM Collection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanks Azatoth. That is really helpful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadey Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 1:48 is smaller than 1:35. Typo? 1:35 is a good match for superheavies. 1:48 tank size would work good but some of the details like hatches etc may be rather small. 1:35 details would be better on a 1:48 tank size. Keep in mind it depends on the model. A 1:35 BT 2 might be smaller than a 1:48 Konigstiger. Without having the models or sizes on hand to compare I am making a guess here, however the point is that either can work depending on what you are after and what is your chosen model. I use a 1:35 PIV in place of a Russ. It is a bit wider and longer but it works good. I'd say it is more realistic than the rather small Russ. I also use a 1:48 PIV and T72 as Ork trukks. 1:35 accessories work good. Faces and hands of 1:35 match GW's heroic scale but otherwise a 1:35 model will be significantly taller. 1:48 models actually do match fairly close to 28mm in height but they will be far more slight. I am not familiar enough though with 1:48 accessories to say one way or the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Scale also depends on tanks and time period. 1/35 scale "Priest" self-propelled artillery is close to a basilisk in size, for example, and a Matilda is around the same footprint as a chimera - but a king tiger is a superheavy (the tracks are the same width as a baneblade, btw), so a 1/48 scale one would be closer as a 'normal' tank in 40k. Modern stuff: 1/48 is definitely closer in scale to 40k than the 1/35 scale stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azatoth Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 1:48 is smaller than 1:35. .. Argh yeah me bad. Corrected above. But Tamilya also has good 1:35 if you need big tanks. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Here I took this picture a while ago.... Ok,in the back is a 1/35 Humvee, then left to right is: 1/35 Troop 1/48 Troop Space Marine Guardsman So GW is some where in between 1/35 and 1/48 but not anatomically proportioned, perhaps a "heroic" 1/40 or 1/42 but good luck finding something in that scale. Now what is it your trying to do or model, perhaps we can help with that. Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2758514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Thanks for all the replies guys. Redfinger that picture is very helpful. I also just looked at your blog and you do some really nice work. I am just looking around for other possible ideas to make a marine scout buggie. I am not a huge fan of the GW marine bikes and really just want to do something different. I was thinking about maybe using an old WWII armored car as a base and put SM stuff on it. But the more I look around I noticed the Ork warbuggy and maybe a sentinel body together with scout stuff might work. Let me know what you think of that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2759720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azatoth Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I remember someone making SM buggies out of a landspeeder chassis and added wheels, but that was about maybe 10 years ago... Something similar to this one. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2759747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadey Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 You might find a more appropriate look in scifi models. Good luck finding an appropriate scale though, scifi models tend to be rather limited. You could also check other tabletop miniatures ranges. A smaller scale buggy or light vehicle of some sort might do the trick. With some converting you could turn a two seat light vehicle into a one man buggy to keep it close to the bike scale. Might need to replace small wheels though. Unless your talking about attack bikes, I woud be very hesitant to radically alter the size. It will change the dynamic if you do competitive play. Making it bigger would tend to be a negative so any but the most anal of opponents should be cool. Me personally, I'd take a hit if it meant I could use a cool model. A larger scale one may work good if you gut it, cutting out the middle to reduce the profile. Think of it this way, keep the wheels with a small part of the attached chassis, cut them off and use them as the corners of a new chassis. I am in the process of finding a small scale rc buggy chassis that I can do something with. Without the motors, reciever etc, probably be very comparable to GW prices. Failing all that the Forgeworld Elysian Tauros rocks. Wouldn't fit in a Marine easily though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2759766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I seem to recall reading somewhere that GW made models in 1/65th scale. Most of the 1/35 vehicles have worked for me, but GW intentionally scales their vehicles to be too small. Seriously, rhinos, razorbacks, land raiders, and storm ravens, are all guilty. Most of the other ones, like drop pods and land speeders, are okay, because they at least are explainable as to why they are so cramped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2759776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 You might have recalled that - but which models are in 1/65 and which aren't? If it's the marine models, then the vehicles are definitely not in this scale and neither are any of the other ranges. GW doesn't HAVE a consistent scale. For "normal" humans, 1/48 or 1/43 (die cast is common in this scale - even military stuff). Marine scaled stuff has to be larger. Modern tanks at 1/35 are about the size of a baneblade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2759945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 @Azatoth that is a little bigger than I am thinking but definitely on the right path. @Shadey - Yeah the forgeworld elysian tauros looks great. I have definitely thought about converting that over. Its just that I live in the US and a Tauros is pretty expensive. I feel like i can get multiple parts and bash them together for around the same price. I am currently thinking that the landspeeder storm cut down with some wheels from the scout bike and some axles from the Ork wartrukk or something would work. That way all the scout stuff is already pretty much there. That is starting to make more sense right now. But it is pretty large and might require more skill than I have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2760645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I seem to recall reading somewhere that GW made models in 1/65th scale. 1/56, I suspect you got your numbers switched around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2760771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 The 'heroic' alterations make determining scale difficult. Especially when the Space Marines are supposed to be 7 feet tall. But Wikipedia has this to offer: The most common size of miniatures, as it is used by Games Workshop. While original 25 mm figures matched 1:76 models (4 mm scale or 00 gauge), there developed wide upwards variation in figure height. True 28 mm figures are close to 1:64 models (S scale), but may appear larger due to bulky sculpting and thick bases. hope it helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2761680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdy81 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I remember someone making SM buggies out of a landspeeder chassis and added wheels, but that was about maybe 10 years ago...Something similar to this one. :D that would go down as sub zero on top gears cool wall Any more info on how it was done? sorry I know this thread wasn't about that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2761747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hrm... wasn't there a Warthog model someone used in their army? I swear I remember seeing that here. That might work very well for making a buggy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2762084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadey Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Andrew, Saw this and thought of our conversation. http://www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk/25mm/gecko/geckosl.gif Looks pretty cool, kind of thing you are after? I shot the seller an email. I want some scaling pics first as it is 25mm and it may be a touch small (though as your replacing bikes that may work in your favour), but if it works out. I will be getting a few of those. The manufacturer is Old Crow Models. Some nice other stuff there too and very reasonably priced. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2768898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Wow good looking out Shadey. Those look pretty good. I will definitely check those out now. I am in a toss up and a little short on money right now but something will happen soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2769315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The Gecko is smaller than a landspeeder, if you are wondering. It fits onto a 2"x3" base (so, shorter than a WHFB chariot base, too). http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm125/infantry_bob/DSC08136.jpg Shows the size of the Gecko pickup variant. I use them for Sentinels in my IG - but they could be used as servitor driven attack bikes (you CAN fit a marine in the back if you are clever with positioning.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2778362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Thanks for the pic chromedog. It looks like the right size but compared to GW stuff nowadays it looks rather plain. I dont know if I will get them now. It would take an awful lot of customizing to make it look close to actual space marines. I have been tossing some ideas around in my head, but this is on the back burner now. I have a lot of stuff to paint and get finished before I end up getting into the buggy conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2779154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceadwe Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I've always wanted to convert one of these, but other things have to take priority. Might be a bit of a tight fit though. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-4000...LT_VEHICLE.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2782805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 It would work for an Elysian Tauros scout with the addition of some GW vehicle bits and eagles. The Elysians are slightly smaller than cadians and a fair bit less bulky than catachans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2783623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 Yeah that is what really inspired me to do start thinking about it. I would love to get one but man are they expensive for those of us in the USA. Maybe sometime soon I will get to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229750-model-tanks-scale-comparable-to-gw/#findComment-2784528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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