Slyfox1990 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Wanted to but a forgeworld model in with 2 x TL autocannon for my list. Sadly the left arm autocannon is out of stock at Forgeworld atm. I m looking to get the list done soon to play with so this is a slight issue. Does anyone know: 1. If you can get the arm elsewhere? ( have tried ebay ) 2. What a good alternative might be to use instead? I m playing about with two list ideas atm: Coteaz 10 strike squad in rhino 9 strike squad in rhino Dreadknight Dreadnought (whatever else I can afford ) Inquisitor w/ inferno and power armour 10 Strike Squad in rhino 9 Strike Squad in rhino Dreadknight Dreadnought ( whatever else I can afford ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncl Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 My plan is to buy an aegis defense line, and use the autocannons in there. However, I also want the scenery, whereas you might not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 My plan is to buy an aegis defense line, and use the autocannons in there. However, I also want the scenery, whereas you might not. Not dead keen on spending money on scenery which I have no table for atm. I m happy to branch out atm and not use the dreadnought but I can't think of anything with comparable anti-tank abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephane4985 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 You can proxy them. The gun is not standard made by GW for dreadnoughts. You shouldn't have problem with that from most people. Just use magnet, so you can put the autocannon later when you have figured out what to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Several bits websites have items you can use. Either the aegis defence gun thingy, imperial guard autocannons, reaper autocannons from the chaos terminator box could work, maybe some thin pipes from a plumber store and add some gubbins to the end? the world is your oyster, now go eat it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yh sadly I get pretty anal about stuff like using bits for items. I may just email them and ask when they could get them back in stock. In the mean time could use either another dreadknight or Assault/Auto combo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 My plan is to buy an aegis defense line, and use the autocannons in there. However, I also want the scenery, whereas you might not. Not dead keen on spending money on scenery which I have no table for atm. I m happy to branch out atm and not use the dreadnought but I can't think of anything with comparable anti-tank abilities. 2 FW Dreadnought arms cost more than an Aegis Defense line. So even if you don't use the blast shields or turret base, you still have a cheaper deal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyfox1990 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hmmm that is a fair point. Has anyone got any info on how easy it is to convert them and how good they look? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Here's a thread with some links and pictures of twin-autocannon Dreads with the Aegis Defense Line autocannons, and some tutorials of how you can convert them. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=227780 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbik Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Here’s the Aegis rifleman I did. Cutting the center out make it look better IMO. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...p;#entry2741717 BOLS’s tutorial http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/04/40k...d-tutorial.html I’ve seen people use the Cadian heavy weapon teems autocannon as well. The war store has them for 12.99 for 3 autocannons. So $26 will let you build 3 arms. http://www.thewarstore.com/product26936.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2760690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Having used the Aegis defence line autocannons to make a dual TL autocannon Dreadnought and having bought a pair of Forge World resin TL autocannons arms for a second DN I think the plastic conversion looks better. The FW autocannon arms don't have as much detail as the arms from the GW venerable DN kit and the resin autocannons have thick barrels in comparison to the plastic. The resin TL autcannon arms I received (for the plastic DN) were not great castings. The left arm is noticably thinner side to side than the right arm and the end of the lower barrel on the right arm is miscast (only 1/2 there). The left arm has the autocannon muzzle holes precast and the right one doesn't. (Why?) I had to bulk up the the inner side of the left FW arm with styrene to make it the same width as the right arm and may replace the miscast muzzle with a short piece of styrene tube. A problem with every FW Chaos or SM dreadnought arm I've bought (9 so far) is that they are too loose a fit on the DN bodies (FW or GW). I could glue them on permanently but prefer to be able to switch weapons. To do that requires putty, magnets and/or replacement of the too narrow arm mounting stubs with wider styrene or brass tubing that's a snug fit into the arm sockets. Were the FW TL autocannons worth the price? It cost as much or more to get two TL Aegis defence line autocannons and the plastic conversion took ~2 hours versus about 1.5 hour to make the FW arms fit securely on the DN body and correct the flaws in the castings. Time being money the FW parts came out on top by a slim margin IMO. Had the castings been better the FW parts would have been a better bargain. In contrast the FW Grey Knights body for the plastic GW DN kit was a very nice, well detailed casting, so much so that I'm ordering a second one and another pair of the less attractive TL autocannons arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2761676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 In contrast the FW Grey Knights body for the plastic GW DN kit was a very nice, well detailed casting, so much so that I'm ordering a second one and another pair of the less attractive TL autocannons arms. I've been eyeing that torso as well. Is it only the front side of the torso, or is it a full torso? I've been wondering if it can be easily used with the AOBR dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2761726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartans Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hi all thought I would offer my tips. as said before the Aegis Defense Line IMO is the best to use combined with the Venerable Dreadnought as with just these two box sets you have everything you need to make a good looking model and it will only cost circa £35 which is not that bad. This is how it turned out when I did it. http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/andytompson/PICT0046.jpg http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/andytompson/PICT0047.jpg http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/andytompson/PICT0048.jpg http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/andytompson/PICT0049.jpg Let me know what you think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2761739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 In contrast the FW Grey Knights body for the plastic GW DN kit was a very nice, well detailed casting, so much so that I'm ordering a second one and another pair of the less attractive TL autocannons arms. I've been eyeing that torso as well. Is it only the front side of the torso, or is it a full torso? I've been wondering if it can be easily used with the AOBR dread. The FW Grey Knight Dreadnought (Mk. V) is the entire torso less the power plant (exhausts). It's designed to replace the plastic body from GW's basic DN kit. It won't work with an AOBR Dreadnought because that kit has the body and legs molded together as front and back halves rather than separate torso and legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2761906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Ah, no power plant. If it was a complete torso I figured I could cut the legs from under the AOBR dread; a join at the bottom wouldn't be too visible. But cutting the powerplant from it is above my conversion skills. Anyways, thanks for the info. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2761978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterDragon Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 As others have said, you can use autocannon parts from IG heavy weapons teams. Here's what I did: a)I got a couple autocannons from a friend b)Cut them up a bit and glued them together c)Glued the pair in front of an unused dreadnought "case". d)Used a bit of green stuff to cover up gaps,etc. So, I got this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/GreaterDragon/40k/Twinautofront1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/GreaterDragon/40k/TwinAutoside2.jpg In the end,it looked like this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v44/GreaterDragon/40k/DreadSide.jpg I only have one arm shown here but you can do the same on the opposite side too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/229906-dreadnought-with-2x-auto-alternatives/#findComment-2762398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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