Karat Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Greetings! I'm a new player to Warhammer 40k but I've played some Fantasy games, and the rules are quite a mess in my head, so I came here for some clearifying! Could someone re-explain me how assault works after the attacks/wounds have been worked out? Perhaps it's just a matter of different names, but how breaking out of melee and fall back movements work? Thanks a lot! Karat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Greetings! I'm a new player to Warhammer 40k but I've played some Fantasy games, and the rules are quite a mess in my head, so I came here for some clearifying! Could someone re-explain me how assault works after the attacks/wounds have been worked out? Perhaps it's just a matter of different names, but how breaking out of melee and fall back movements work? Thanks a lot! Karat Assuming you have no special rules (And they shall know no fear, fearless, stubborn and so on).. Take the number of wounds the losing side lost by and subtract it from their leadership value (or highest if you have a model in the unit with higher than average leadership). If you roll equal or under the value you get on 2d6 the unit is happy... if you roll greater it wants to run away. Then normally (although some units can't) both sides roll 1d6 and add it to their I value. If the person running away gets a greater value they escape (normally running 2d6). If they don't beat the value of the side winning combat they all get killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karat Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 If the unit manages to win the d6+I and flees its 2d6'' the enemy unit doesn't gets to "pursue"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 No- there is no pursuit roll in 40k. Instead a unit that wins combat gets a 'consolidation' move, wich is much smaller. You can find that in the index under 'consolidation moves'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytool Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The initiative role off in 40k is called "sweeping advance"(BRB p40) it is our version of pursuit, it is done this way as we are not "forced" to take our wounds from the rear of the sq. The fleeing unit get to "fall back" 2d6(BRB p45, or another distance dependent on rules) and the victor gets to move 1d6 "consolidation"(brb p40). The fleeing unit could have got 2d1's and moved 2" and the victor could have consolidated 6", the victor still does not "catch" the fleeing unit it MUST stay 1" away from the fleeing models(who move first). -edited page no.s in and put SA sentence to top- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Sorry to threadjack, but I have a quick question about the rules issue here, as it seems to be talking about sweeping advance. Should be easy and simple to work out. The rulebook says that if the lose fails his morale check then both sides must roll a 1D6, add to I, compare, and then if the loser gets caught dies etc. My question is that it sounds like it's mandatory, is it mandatory? I ask because in some instances, like Space Marines with ATSKNF, I'd prefer to let them run and then run them off the board, as otherwise they don't die but are subject to wounds from No Retreat. So is a sweeping advance optional, or do you have to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm pretty sure you have to do so unless a special rule says otherwise. YOU may want to escort Marines off the board, but your MODELS want to kill the enemy. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thought so, those undisciplined models. You'd think that being DA Successors they'd much rather stay still and shoot them as they fall back, but no, we have to be a Space Wolf and chase them down ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 it is mandatory - marneus calgar has the ability to allow you to choose to pass or fail though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytool Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 yea it is mandatory unless another rule says so(like the victor having 1 model wearing TDA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 it is mandatory - marneus calgar has the ability to allow you to choose to pass or fail though. sweeping advance is not a moral check, and thus marneus calgar can do nothing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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