Token Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Which are the Grey Knight books? Are they any good? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impactwinter Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 try Ben Counter's Grey Knights Omnibus the first and second novels are quite good, the third is... adequate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Templarius Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I liked them all well enough :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreaterDragon Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Same here, liked all of the trilogy. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I quite enjoyed the third novel, it had an interesting approcah and asked good questions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 The Emperor's Gift. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impactwinter Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Oiad for the Win! nice find! I suppose I'll add that if you are an E-book user and familiar with the manipulation of those files that a wealth of 40k novels are available in the Ether from... unwholesome sources. Radical Inquisitors and their forbidden tomes indeed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
embalancer Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 the problem with them are that they are TECHNICALLY out of date with current fluff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 'The Killing Ground' by Graham McNeill also includes Grey Knights, though it is a set of Ultramarine characters that take the leading role in the book. the problem with them are that they are TECHNICALLY out of date with current fluff Care to build upon that statement with an example or two? I'm curious as to what you're getting at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murcielago Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The new book Victories of the Space Marines has a small shortstory about us greys...Its about 50 pages long but I enjoyed it...It also makes us look kinda crazy with all of the amount of shenanigans that go into making us that awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The Victories of the Space Marines short story("Sacrifice" I think it's called) was great. Far from making the Grey Knights look crazy I thought it illustrated how incredibly important they are, or at least how critical their mission is. All that goes into making just one blessed bolter shell, for instance, one bolter shell out of hundreds that must be expended on a mission to take out a critical target.The real Enemy, the primeval Enemy, that everything else is a sideshow to. It drives home that Chaos overshadows everything and only the Grey Knights truly understand and can deal with it. As far as the omnibus, I just finished it yesterday. I thought the first book was boring, and I had to slog my way through it, though I do remember liking the "twist" the author put at the end. I kept putting it down to read other things: three other fantasy novels, the autobiography of Ben Franklin, and a book about string theory. That's how boring I felt the first book was. The second book was better, picking up toward the end (though I really disliked the way it ended). I read the entire third book in one night I liked it so much. YMMV, of course, but I comment to point out that each book in the omnibus is at a different animal. I am glad I didn't quit reading it after the first book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2766634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 'The Killing Ground' by Graham McNeill also includes Grey Knights, though it is a set of Ultramarine characters that take the leading role in the book. the problem with them are that they are TECHNICALLY out of date with current fluff Care to build upon that statement with an example or two? I'm curious as to what you're getting at. Things like Grey Knight Chaplains spring to mind, along with obvious things like not like including any of the units introduced in the new Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Ah, in relation to the GK omnibus. Gotcha. Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impactwinter Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Honestly I think Counter's novels present such a squad-level perspective that it holds with the new 'dex rather well. It just doesn't touch on the larger battle forces and composition of the chapter. iirc Alaric and his squad do all the heavy lifting throughout all the three novels, with the notable exception of Tancred's Terminators, who clearly were Paladins but were not discussed as such. (like that retcon? I should work for DC comics!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Try not to spoil to much of the stories please.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 The last book of the omnibus is a decent enough fantasy story. A bit like post-Robert E. Howard Conan. However, it's rubbish 40k. The first two books are fading from memory. Take what you will from that. Ben Counter is simply outclassed by a number of other BL authors. He takes liberties with the fluff and his readers' ability to stomach it. I threw down the Soul Drinkers omnibus in disgust. I couldn't make it through the first book. :jaw: My advice? Skip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 My advice? Skip. My advice? Never skip a book based on someone not liking it. I loved the grey knights omnibus and hated abyss. I am also one of the few who enjoyed the much malighned BA series of novels. Everyone has their own taste and I think people should always give a book a go. I thought the third book fitted in nicely to the 40k universe, counter took something not often detailed ( a daemon world) and fleshed it out, made it his own and added a nice little twist. I never advise people to skip a novel, even if i despise it (such as the imho abominable abyss). I'd still recomend people read that paticular heresy novel, hell some may like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 My advice? Skip. My advice? Never skip a book based on someone not liking it. I loved the grey knights omnibus and hated abyss. I am also one of the few who enjoyed the much malighned BA series of novels. Everyone has their own taste and I think people should always give a book a go. I thought the third book fitted in nicely to the 40k universe, counter took something not often detailed ( a daemon world) and fleshed it out, made it his own and added a nice little twist. I never advise people to skip a novel, even if i despise it (such as the imho abominable abyss). I'd still recomend people read that paticular heresy novel, hell some may like it. Sure, drop by the bookstore or download a preview. But if you don't want advice, don't inquire on public forums. Free advice is what you're going to get and you'll get it in spades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 The last book of the omnibus is a decent enough fantasy story. A bit like post-Robert E. Howard Conan. However, it's rubbish 40k. This. Read it if you want a generic fantasy story (but in that case I'd much rather recommend other books. Like the brilliant 'Name of the Wind'), but it's rubbish 40k, and even worse 'Grey Knights'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Lord Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 There's a couple of oddities in Grey Knights. One of the terminators has twin lightning claws- I'm not sure if that was possible in the old list. And a timeline oddity- Mandulis remembers fighting at Armageddon in the First War vs Angron, in the first chapter- but that takes place 1000 years before the present (999.M41). Whereas the 1st War of Armageddon takes place less than 600 years before the "present". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Templarius Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I thought the 3rd story was pretty good, maybe I'm not remembering it correctly, but it was quite different from most of 40k, and the other Grey Knight novels as well. It was a nice change of scenery. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230261-grey-knight-books/#findComment-2767760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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