Devjon Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 When I originally read the section of the rulebook on assaulting units and movement what I understood was that if you declare an assault against enemy unit A then you would move your closest model to unit A's closest model; if you could not get into base contact by moving 6" then you did nothing assault that turn and could not do anything else, such as attempt to assault another enemy unit, and that it simply worked like shooting at a unit that is out of range, you shoot/assault but it is too far and you do nothing. But upon further consideration and reading the section again I have started having my doubts. The section reads: "If the closest model is found not to be within of move distance of the enemy, that assault does not happen and no move is made." Does that mean that you may select a new target for assaulting as the original one 'did not happen'? Or does that section merely work to forbid the possibility of stealing an extra move during your turn? I want to hear a general consensus on the matter. What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 When I originally read the section of the rulebook on assaulting units and movement what I understood was that if you declare an assault against enemy unit A then you would move your closest model to unit A's closest model; if you could not get into base contact by moving 6" then you did nothing assault that turn and could not do anything else, such as attempt to assault another enemy unit, and that it simply worked like shooting at a unit that is out of range, you shoot/assault but it is too far and you do nothing. But upon further consideration and reading the section again I have started having my doubts. The section reads: "If the closest model is found not to be within of move distance of the enemy, that assault does not happen and no move is made." Does that mean that you may select a new target for assaulting as the original one 'did not happen'? Or does that section merely work to forbid the possibility of stealing an extra move during your turn? I want to hear a general consensus on the matter. What do you guys think? If you can't reach who you declared, then no assault moves are allowed for that unit, be that into combat with another unit or to just gain ground. That is why it is important to remember the distances between you and your foe during the shooting phase, and to become a good judge of range. I know that Rhinos are 4.75" long and 3" wide, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2766561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelballer Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 hopefully i dont derail the thread at all... but if when you declare an assault and the unit is more than 6 inches away you don't get to move your models at all, correct? Or do you get to move the 6 and just not be in assault? Sorry for the noob question but im on vacation and dont have my rulebook with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2766656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azatoth Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 hopefully i dont derail the thread at all... but if when you declare an assault and the unit is more than 6 inches away you don't get to move your models at all, correct? Or do you get to move the 6 and just not be in assault? Sorry for the noob question but im on vacation and dont have my rulebook with me. It is in the quote of the Op. "no move is made" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2766663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Azatoth is correct. No move is made and the assault is ignored [p33 BRB]. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2766876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Azatoth is correct. No move is made and the assault is ignored [p33 BRB]. Aye, the charging unit falls flat on their faces and has to spend the rest of the phase picking themselves up out of the mud. Not the most heroic thing for the loyal sevants of the Emperor to be doing admittedly, but heyho. Maybe they the whole unit's boltguns inexplicidly jam at exactly the same moment and they have to unstick them. At least that's mildy less stupid sounding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2766908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Azatoth is correct. No move is made and the assault is ignored [p33 BRB]. Aye, the charging unit falls flat on their faces and has to spend the rest of the phase picking themselves up out of the mud. Not the most heroic thing for the loyal sevants of the Emperor to be doing admittedly, but heyho. Maybe they the whole unit's boltguns inexplicidly jam at exactly the same moment and they have to unstick them. At least that's mildy less stupid sounding. or maybe charging represents an extra burst of energy as you throw yourself headlong into close combat, and is not the sort of thing that can be easily maintained, and your models being the profesional soldiers that they are can judge distance slight better than we can. Thus not wasting the energy to sprint if they wont make contact with it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2767016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devjon Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Alright, thank you everyone. I thought that I had it originally correct but I wanted to make sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2767457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear of Achilles Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 and in any event, you can only assault the guy you shot at (if you shot at all) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/230301-assaulting-and-movement-distance/#findComment-2775799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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