tiny sam Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 talking of crazy heraldry, here is the wip on the a shield in the squad the checkers need a little more attention and I notice the top ermine has a forked claw :( my fingers are for size comparaison Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2846063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 just get back froma Fishing trip (very relaxing!) I had the time yesterday evening to finish another marine of Tactical Squad Pierre 1st. Comments ans Critics are welcomed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2851801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 mmm no reply... anyway, I've been busy writing some fluff for these guys. I posted it in the Liber Astartes but ain't got any feedback for now : here I've manage to finish the Knight-Sergent of the squad :tu: only 4 to go for the full squad! Comments and critics are welcomed! thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2855793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 two more marines, that squad is realy comming nicely! standard bearers (a reloading marine!!!) and the one in a squad AoBR marines. They tend to be realy static but I found that you could easily put one without damaging the whole effect of the squad) Critics? comments? Things to improves? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2859548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khargan Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 definitely an adventurous scheme you have going on and most certainly on the right track. although that said being honest I think the blue yellow check is a bit over bearing on the scheme you have got there, its almost a bit hard to focus on it with that there? I would suggest if you are going to do the check, try it in a more pastel palette, same colours but more... earthy/linnen. other pointers would be that you have a massive range of things going on in terms of techniques and sculpting/conversions which is really good to see and you can only ever get better by pushing yourself right out there. I would take one of your aspects, IE robes, or checks, insignia free hand, armour.. whatever it is, and just have a right old practice on a bucket load of left overs, hell even on old sprue. on the robes, there is a nice set of tutorials here on B&C where using a plastic sheet as a base layer then building up with long rolls of green stuff. All in all your only limitation are the tools you have at hand as you clearly show talent to be built upon and aspiration for a grand and striking scheme and yes it is frustrating when forum goers don't comment on work but never lose heart, and from my own experience, hoard tutorials, hoard things that inspire you and just go at it trying to replicate what you see. it will allow you in the future to represent your own imagery in a way that will blow the eyeballs out of our sockets! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2859571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 definitely an adventurous scheme you have going on and most certainly on the right track. although that said being honest I think the blue yellow check is a bit over bearing on the scheme you have got there, its almost a bit hard to focus on it with that there? that's however exactly the effect I want to gives, I want to gives them the "Chaotic" marking of the original knights army. (don't know if it makes sense). I've been very inspired for this army by picture like this one : http://www.modellesmakett.hu/images/super/8044_English_Knights_Of_The_100_Years_War.jpg Here is a group shot of all the banner I currently have in this army. I would suggest if you are going to do the check, try it in a more pastel palette, same colours but more... earthy/linnen. Obviously want that, do you have a concrete tips for that? other pointers would be that you have a massive range of things going on in terms of techniques and sculpting/conversions which is really good to see and you can only ever get better by pushing yourself right out there. I would take one of your aspects, IE robes, or checks, insignia free hand, armour.. whatever it is, and just have a right old practice on a bucket load of left overs, hell even on old sprue. on the robes, there is a nice set of tutorials here on B&C where using a plastic sheet as a base layer then building up with long rolls of green stuff. yeah i know wath you mean, my next project (sternguard vet) should give me the oportunity to heavily practice robes. I'll try to not rush it like that squad. All in all your only limitation are the tools you have at hand as you clearly show talent to be built upon and aspiration for a grand and striking scheme thanks! don't know what to say :) and yes it is frustrating when forum goers don't comment on work but never lose heart, and from my own experience, hoard tutorials, hoard things that inspire you and just go at it trying to replicate what you see. it will allow you in the future to represent your own imagery in a way that will blow the eyeballs out of our sockets! after all it our driving goal ;) (blowing eyeball I mean...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2859616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khargan Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Bretonia....er......ines! that squad shot is actually rather nice I have to admit! on the painting with a pastel palette, start with a darker colour and highlight with rotten flesh, spacewolf grey, dwarf flesh/terracotta, those very earth tone colours, obviously I say highlight so have a look for highlighting tutorials, although when I highlight I generally work with what is commonly known as "glazing" The inspiration shot is actually really nice, and honestly I would look at practicing your armour and metalic paiting first as painting your marines metalics with a chainmail/white metal and a touch of regal blue will give you almost exactly near a base blue hue metal similar to that painting. something to think about perhaps? either way when working with anything some say work in baby steps, honestly, look at something epic, attempt to re create it, learn where you went wrong and pick up tutorials or just ask how, but focus on one key area (mine at the moment is realistic battle damage/weathering) and it is still taking quite some time to get me remotely near pleased :) Keep up the good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2859634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 31, 2011 Author Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks Khargan. I take inspiration for the Heraldry but I'm not sure about the bluish armor I'll stay with dark iron (that doesn't said I won't try to improve my technique on it :P) I almost have finished the two last marines (still have a problems with one's hand) so I have attack the basing. have you ever realised the quantity of free plasticard that just lay their, for the taking :) here is what I have for now : and after some proper cutting. it's raining so I can't primed outside, and I can't primed inside due to this bad boy (wich name is Horus :() so It'll have to wait to tomorow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2862783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Those colors actually look perfect for your force :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2862787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 I finished the squad and put the result on the Hall of fame : Here I began the work on my Sternguard. these are going to be a training ground for cloth. While the hot blooded brothers join the rank of the vanguard knights, the most pious and methodical ones are offered a place among the sternguards knights. this first shot is an early WIP. I'm planning on building him a robe, magnetising the weapon arm (heavy flammer or Bolter) also he should have a rosary in his hand and the paint job will reveal a wound on the head with a broken helmet on the floor. comments, critics, suggestion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2864712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Other than the gun being really big, pushing the limit on being over-sized? Nah. You might want to check out Nighthunter's thread, his latest update has some awesome devastators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2864749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Other than the gun being really big, pushing the limit on being over-sized? Nah. You might want to check out Nighthunter's thread, his latest update has some awesome devastators. mmm I was having the impression that the size was in the line of the others heavy weapons maybe I could convert my heavy flamer from the dreadnought's one, which is a bit smaller? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2865404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hmmmm, my bad. Otherwise, still good :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2865532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Hmmmm, my bad. Otherwise, still good :rolleyes: let put that on perspective effect <_< Tonight work, the hand and the the medaillon of the rosary need a little more work but I need to wait a bit to let it cure. and i did some work on the sergent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2865758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 quick update, I opt for an MK VIII armor (the torso is blue tacted to the legs, thats why it's not aligned) and the detaile of the praying hand. what do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2866084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I know it may be a little late now, but for the praying hand, I would suggest putting both strands through the closed hand, with the medallion a little closer to the hand. On to the rest of your army, I have to admit when this WIP thread first popped up, I was sceptical, but now I'm really liking the individuallity of each mini, while still being identifiable of part of the larger army. Keep 'm coming I look forward to more. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2866282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Agreeing with Grot on the rosary. However, that sergeant is awesome, I particularily like the laurel on the knee-pad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2866411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 thanks for the comments I'm troubled by your suggestion on the rosary as I always figured praying with a rosary this way http://us.cdn1.123rf.com/168nwm/shawnhempel/shawnhempel1101/shawnhempel110100077/8747267-close-up-of-male-hands-praying-with-rosary.jpg and like grot has said it's a little late (it would mean to scrap the hand at all...) the laurel thing came directly from the GW sternguard box ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2866975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 the laurel thing came directly from the GW sternguard box I know, but I've been trying to find a good use for that laurel for a while now and it's never quite looked right no matter what I did with it. You managed to pull it off, and that's really impressive for me :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2867022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 anyone has an idea of how could I do beads of that size?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2867087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 here are some more progress with the sternguards. the Sergent now has a part of his robe, the fold will be done after. (the monkey arm effect is partially due to the blue tac failing and the fact that space wolves have monkey power fist.) the praying marine, he'll get a robe eventually. if someone have an idea for the beads of the rosary, I have no clue on how I'm going to do that... and two more veterans the auspex guy (with a "kustom" bolter if you know what I mean :woot:) and the combi-plasma guy (the bolter is magnetise so it can be switch for a standard one) I'm kind of lost on what to do with the other arm, as the position of the weapons prevent him to hold it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2869234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The prayer beads idea is awesome. No idea about how to do the individual beads, though. My first though when I looked at the pose was not that he was praying, but that he had found the item on the battlefield and was picking it up out of respect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2869729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 the line between respectfully holding a rosary and praying is very tight :P I'll take that as a win ;) it will probably be obvious when I'll add the broken helmet and the head wound ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2869950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Please, please please lower the auspexe guy's bolter :lol: Weapons are only held like that for the purpose of reloading. As for the other arm, perhaps a lowered chainsword, positioned under the bolter/combi? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2870054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Sergeant Bohemond Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Loving your work mate, I really liked your IA and the Knights themselves are superb, if your still looking for names try some of these: Godfrey Baldwin Bohemond Tancred Ill see what other names I come up with if you like And I agree with Thirst, lower the Boltgun and maybe a combat blade for the last sternguard?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231115-order-of-saint-gergorys-log/page/2/#findComment-2870066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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