Redeye Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Last night I came aross a tactic that was nasty. Surround a Landraider with what ever you can, making sure you block the exit points, then try and get a wrecking hit. As the transported unit can`t get out they are lost too. Anyone else come across this type of tactic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
christheodorou Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Cant say i have but he must have had aleast 30 models around it to stop you deploying! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanyPrawny Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I told my opponent about this tactic when we were talking about downsides to the land raider before a game once.... Bad Idea. He spent the entire game trying to wrap units around it and blow it up. Worked out ok for me though as he never managed it and my other units massacred him. Still there were some squeaky bum time moments that almost lost me logan, arjac and my other terminators :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Can't say I've ever seen the tactic used but it's possible with a full squad of Kroot and Firewarriors. Just sayin' Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union.Jack Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yes I got caught in two rhinos by a chaos player and lost two packs of grey hunters :D Re read the rules about "Emergency disembarkation" . If all the exits are blocked you can place your models within 2" of the tanks hull. He CAN'T kill everyone in the tank just by blocking the exits. Page 67 of the BRB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It's not anything new. You can do this to any transport that is not open topped Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 he just blocked the doors and front ramp, 1 fire warrior on one door, praniah other door and APC front ramp. lucky for me it exploded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphus Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It's not anything new. You can do this to any transport that is not open topped As implied I've never let anything behind my transports (ok I have only one and it ain't marine) but a land radar? It usually has enough guns on it to stop this sort of thing and you can always death or glory. (god I sound like a t**t here, sorry) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It's not anything new. You can do this to any transport that is not open topped As implied I've never let anything behind my transports (ok I have only one and it ain't marine) but a land radar? It usually has enough guns on it to stop this sort of thing and you can always death or glory. (god I sound like a t**t here, sorry) I wasn't saying anything about you. Just saying that this can be done to an transport that's not open topped. And it's not something that you should really be going for since you will get ripped apart if it doesn't happen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yes I got caught in two rhinos by a chaos player and lost two packs of grey hunters :D Re read the rules about "Emergency disembarkation" . If all the exits are blocked you can place your models within 2" of the tanks hull. He CAN'T kill everyone in the tank just by blocking the exits. Page 67 of the BRB. THANK YOU Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yes I got caught in two rhinos by a chaos player and lost two packs of grey hunters :D Re read the rules about "Emergency disembarkation" . If all the exits are blocked you can place your models within 2" of the tanks hull. He CAN'T kill everyone in the tank just by blocking the exits. Page 67 of the BRB. Yes there is that. But if you can't be 1" away you die. In the case of the rhino you are what, leaving 1 guy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Erm... yes he can. If you have the vehicle surrounded (and you can actually do this with 5 terminators and you get a 5 in the vehicle chart... the unit inside is gone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterfree Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Erm... yes he can. If you have the vehicle surrounded (and you can actually do this with 5 terminators and you get a 5 in the vehicle chart... the unit inside is gone. hence my post above. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Oh yes i love it when I get one of these. As toasterfree said its certainly a valid tactic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union.Jack Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 It says "anywhere within 2" of the hull" not the doors/exits so 5 termies wouldn't be enough to surround a Rhino. After the guy did this to me I asked the others at my club, they all said you can get out using the emergency disembark rule. You can get out after the tank has been wrecked with missile launchers but not because there is a nasty wittle ork blocking the door? Come on! In a friendly game it's a pretty cheap tactic to use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted June 3, 2011 Author Share Posted June 3, 2011 Just trying to understand if blocking the doors only works, no bothered by the tactic just that we played it right. I am at work atm so I will check the referances and rules "Emergency disembarkation" when I get home. Thanks for all the help Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Just trying to understand if blocking the doors only works, no bothered by the tactic just that we played it right.I am at work atm so I will check the referances and rules "Emergency disembarkation" when I get home. Thanks for all the help blocking the doors only forces emergency disembarkation. To wipe them out entirely you have to surround the vehicle (so no passenger can get out within 2 inches of the hull) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Its legal. You surround the tank totally and they cant get out. A model can never be within 1" of an enemy model unless assault has been initiated. So if the tank is surrounded there is no way the unit can be within 2" of the vehicle and not be within 1" of an enemy unit, so the embarked unit is destroyed. As a side note this works well with Storm Ravens and other vehicles with a base that they disembark from. And with 15 man Blood Claw units this is a sneaky one for us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Scarabs do this well on rhinos but its difficult to completely surround a land raider so they can't use emergency disembarkation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I use to do this all the time. Falcons and waveserpents were the easiest. Which is why they made it anywhere in 2" of the hull. But it has to die and not blow up. So only a 17% chance of the result you want. Still back in the day I use to smoke some Eldar like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I use to do this all the time. Falcons and waveserpents were the easiest. Which is why they made it anywhere in 2" of the hull. But it has to die and not blow up. So only a 17% chance of the result you want. Still back in the day I use to smoke some Eldar like this. Those were good days... *sips ale and wonders down memory lane* Its more an opportunist tactic than one that should be planned, but worth knowing if you see the right situation in a game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yup. I am starting to feel old. lol Guess cause I am 40 now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Yup. I am starting to feel old. lol Guess cause I am 40 now. Long of fang, sharp of mind right? :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 i surrounded a Dark Eldar webway portal with my Fen Wolves. It was pretty funny since I blew up most of his transports, as he was relying on the portal to get closer to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I do this all the time. Even with my IG. Works a treat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231212-nasty-tactic-anyone-else-come-across-this/#findComment-2780959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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