MagicMan Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 So the rulebook says in regards to flying vehicles if they're immobilised they're destroyed, but in a battle report i read a Stormraven was immobilised and just floated to the ground and carried on shooting stuff. Are they only destroyed if they move over a certain distance? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Are they only destroyed if they move over a certain distance? Yep. If they're goin flat out and you render them Immobile, they're toast. ;) Otherwise they just peter out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2781820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 Whoops, my opponent will be happy. The amount of types ive immobilised and ''destroyed'' his Valkyrie. >_> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2781822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Happens to all of us, Brother. First time I used a Librarian with the Unleash Rage power I thought it allowed me to add D3 attacks TO MY ENTIRE UNIT (instead of what it actually said, which was to add D3 attacks to a single model of my choice WITHIN the unit). I felt really bad after, but HOLY CRAP did my assault squad wreck some face that game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2781828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 So the rulebook says in regards to flying vehicles if they're immobilised they're destroyed, but in a battle report i read a Stormraven was immobilised and just floated to the ground and carried on shooting stuff. Are they only destroyed if they move over a certain distance? In Apocalypse - an Immobilized Flyer is Destroyed. In normal mission 40K - there are no Flyers, as of yet. As noted above, Immobilized Fast Skimmers moving Flat Out are Destroyed. Otherwise they are just rendered Immobile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2781879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Yep. And note they have to be immobilized during their own turn- to my knowledge that means they have failed a difficult terrain test while moving flat out or the effects of them ramming something are the only ways they can die from this clause. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 There aren't very many Fast Skimmers you can Ram with - it's Tank only (isn't it?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yes- wich gives us any DE skimmer with a certain upgrade, all Eldar skimmers larger than a vyper, and Stormravens IIRC. Wait. Nope, so just Eldar/DE vehicles really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yep. And note they have to be immobilized during their own turn- to my knowledge that means they have failed a difficult terrain test while moving flat out or the effects of them ramming something are the only ways they can die from this clause. Grey Mage, are you getting the fate of passengers mixed up with the vehicle there? Page 71 of he rulebook: "a skimmer that is immobilised immediately crashes and is destroyed (wrecked) if in moved flat out in its last turn." As opposed to page 70: "Passengers may not disembark from a fast vehicle if it has moved (or is going to move) flat out in that movement phase." In summery - if not moving flat out and immobilised - immobilised. If moving flat out then if immobilised in your turn - wrecked and passengers all dead, If moving flat out then if immobilised in opponents turn - wrecked and passengers take standard wrecked damage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share Posted June 5, 2011 When would a Valkyrie or Stormraven need to take a difficult terrain test? Surely they fly over everything? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 When would a Valkyrie or Stormraven need to take a difficult terrain test? Surely they fly over everything? It's a skimmer, so it has to take a dangerous terrain test if it starts or ends it's turn in difficult/dangerous terrain (but not if it merely flies over said terrain). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatman Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 If moving flat out then if immobilised in your turn - wrecked and passengers all dead, If moving flat out then if immobilised in opponents turn - wrecked and passengers take standard wrecked damage. Because hitting a hedge is so much more dangerous then being hit by melta. Silly rule isn't it? ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2782799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Also important to note that if the skimmer is a member of a squadron at the time the Immobilized result is applied, the immobilized skimmer is instead Wrecked. Valkyries can be bought in squadrons, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2783837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Also important to note that if the skimmer is a member of a squadron at the time the Immobilized result is applied, the immobilized skimmer is instead Wrecked. Valkyries can be bought in squadrons, right? Yes they can- 1-3 for Valks and Vendettas, wich I always thought was kinda sucky for the IG. Since Im not a fan of them in regular 40k though, I wont complain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2784021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Also important to note that if the skimmer is a member of a squadron at the time the Immobilized result is applied, the immobilized skimmer is instead Wrecked. Valkyries can be bought in squadrons, right? Yes they can- 1-3 for Valks and Vendettas, wich I always thought was kinda sucky for the IG. Since Im not a fan of them in regular 40k though, I wont complain. The board definitely feels crowded when you have one or two flitting around.. Thanks for all the help guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231276-blowing-up-flying-things/#findComment-2787521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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