Tanhausen Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Hi there, I picked up some models to stand as watchers to work as objectives/bases... here is the one I painted today. http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv140/T3mp4n0/IMG00237-20110605-2240.jpg http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv140/T3mp4n0/IMG00240-20110605-2241.jpg http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv140/T3mp4n0/IMG00241-20110605-2241.jpg http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv140/T3mp4n0/IMG00242-20110605-2241.jpg The robes started with dark green and layering up to scorpion green. The flesh with flat tan and rotten flesh. The book with dark brown, sand and white. Ideas/suggestions to get a "cleaner" model appreciated ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's a nice looking model but it has one major flaw as a watcher model. You are never supposed to be able to see what type of creature is inside the robe of a watcher model, so fluff wise this does not at all fit with the DA background. You'd be better off calling it a chapter serf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Angle Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 It's a nice looking model but it has one major flaw as a watcher model. You are never supposed to be able to see what type of creature is inside the robe of a watcher model, so fluff wise this does not at all fit with the DA background. You'd be better off calling it a chapter serf. this and what model is that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 I agree on not knowing the race of the creature...but couldnt get hold of the original model and was a bit put back for sculpting it myself. He's from the servants set of scibor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd go with calling him a chapter serf - he's pretty much a spit for some artwork out there. :angry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd go with calling him a chapter serf - he's pretty much a spit for some artwork out there. :woot: Language issues... does it mean that by using this model I'm wrecking the Watcher's fluff? TBH, I'm not that concerned about being strict about fluff... but I agree with you guys: if we do things, lets do them right :) So topic changed and... I'm a bit "worried" it looks...not exactly flat, but I don't think you can tell I put into him 2 hours of layering with the green :D Any ideas of how to make him pop more? I was thinking going more extreme on highlights... even do a golden rim on the hood. Also, comments on the face? That DOES look flat IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd go with calling him a chapter serf - he's pretty much a spit for some artwork out there. :D Language issues... does it mean that by using this model I'm wrecking the Watcher's fluff? No, he means he looks exactly the same as some artwork of a chapter serf. A spit is slang for a 'spitting image' – meaning two things that look very alike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 Thanks for the clarification. So... ideas? Or aren't the pics good enough? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2783824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugebill Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The darkest parts of your miniature could be more dark in my opinion. ( pure dark angel green or even mixed with a drop of black in it) The face looks very good I think (I wish I'd be able to paint eyes, right now I just skip them). You could give the face a light wash of orgryn flesh but again, it already looks pretty good, cause I imagine a servant to never be much exposed to the sun in his life. Also, good choice to make it a serf more than a watcher. (watchers are kinda bodyless creatures made of pure magic) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2784011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'd try doing a dark wash of the cloak maybe using badab black or the other common one I forget the name of lol. Then do another highlight pass with your lightest color of it. That could help it to pop more. The face looks fine but I saw a good technique you could try. Give it a wash of gyphon sepia and then highlight with tallarn flesh or something lighter depending on how pale you want him to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2784065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I agree that the robe needs more shading, not highlights. A black or dark green ink should sort that out. I suggest you thin the ink first so you don't accidentally overdo it. The flesh looks great. Like Hugebill says, he probably isn't very healthy. I expect to see an excellent illuminated manuscript on those pages. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2784176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Just wanted to let you guys know that tomorrow you are coming to a tournament :) http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv140/T3mp4n0/IMG00253-20110617-2305.jpg?t=1308344982 AEPDA is the local board I usually post at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231383-a-chapter-serf-previously-a-watcher/#findComment-2795771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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