Salamander Lord2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 When a guy with a power fist, or a monsterous creature assaults a vehicle and pens does it get a minus to the damage roll since it has no AP value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracks0682 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 NO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Expanding on that, it's not that it has no AP value, it's that it has an AP value of "-" that causes it to have -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 As has been said, only 'AP-' weapons get -1. BRB p61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 As has been said, only 'AP-' weapons get -1.BRB p61. Â Just to clarify this (as I feel the source of confusion necessitates it): "AP-" and "Doesn't have an AP stat" are not the same thing. Â A power fist suffers no penalty for hitting a vehicle; nor does a monstrous creature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 And another thing: They don't get +1 for AP 1 even though they ignore armor saves, as they don't have any AP value at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salamander Lord2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up for me you guys, I was really confused about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up for me you guys, I was really confused about that. No problem, that's why we're here. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 To further clarify, only Ranged Weapons have an AP value at all, to which the "AP - " rule refers. Â Close Combat Weapons are an entirely different set of pickles that have their own set of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Close Combat Weapons are an entirely different set of pickles that have their own set of rules. If your marines wield pickles in melee, they are brave indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 :D yes very good. But wait, Pickle-breath isn't a cc weapon it's an assault 1 weapon using the flamer template :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptinLoken Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 This is also why melta bombs are not ap 1 as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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