Glendor Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Does anybody do this? Many times when I paint metallics specifically gold they look thick and crusty. I was wondering if watering them down would help out. Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yes. I generally use metallics off a wet palette, that helps too. Several coats is better than one thick. Also mix with non-metallic paints in early coats for better coverage (eg gold and brown over black works better than jumping straight to gold). Again, thin coats and build up your highlights as you normally would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2790099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maligoare Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 As with the vast majority of GW paints, they are a little too thick to get a good finish after multiple layers. I keep my boltgun metal pot thinned to the consistency (give or take) of milk, and it goes on a treat - good, even coverage in thin coats. What doesn't work is watering them down too much - anywhere near a wash, and all the metalic pigment begins to separate out. My advice would be to have a play around and see if it works for you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2790101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 A good baseline for watering down metallic paint, I've found, is a not-quite-50/50 mix. If you're feeling brave, water it down further (but not by alot). :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2790954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall_Brant Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 If you water down your metallic's too much you'll end up with shiny water (I've done it one too many times). I just add water till it flows close to water and not steak sauce. How I judge is by tilting the pot down and watching the paint move, if it runs slow I'll add water. If it runs too fast (usually after I add too much water) I'll set the pot aside for a time till the paint thickens up a bit. If you want any advice on painting gold I'd be happy to help. 12 years in 40K and I've been a painter since I was in 2nd grade (I'm 23 now). Sorry no NMM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2791160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glendor Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Yes if you can give gold advice that would be excellent. maybe pictures too?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2792111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urb Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 The key to gold or any metallic paints is to start with a black base. I tend to shade gold metallics with brown in or watered down black. My prefered sequence is a base of tin bitz, gold, wash of black, then a bolt gun highlight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2792234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall_Brant Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Yes if you can give gold advice that would be excellent. maybe pictures too?? I'll see what I can do. But first; Dark Gold, Light Gold, Bronze, or Brass? It'd help me decide what paints I'd need to use. If you have any doubts of my skill refer to the picture below: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2792328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glendor Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 ok that is awesome. Bronze would be my preference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2792872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall_Brant Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 hey oh! I'm done with the painting, unfortunately it seems that the mini I paint has a profound effect on how I paint. I went with a helmet because it would be a good subject detail wise. If it was a World Eater helm I would have had no prob doing bronze, as it turns out, however, the helm I chose was a Blood Angel's Death Co helmet. Thus resulting in a dark/rich gold. I took a pic of the finished helm, tell me what you think. If you don't like it I could do another. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2793664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I like it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2793836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glendor Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 Ya thats awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2794036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_hhh Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 nothing wrong with that gold! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2794038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall_Brant Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Glad you like it. I was planning on painting a death co in that gold as a demonstration (tutorial if you will) on how I did the dark gold, also it would be easier to take pix of it aswell. It'll probably take abit longer than half an hour so I might get it done today but chancesesssseses are it'll be done tomorrow. Cheers, Brant Ps: yes Brant is my real name :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2794392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_hhh Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 you dont happen to be from new zealand do you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2794484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall_Brant Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Sorry I don't live in New Zealand. I live in California. Unfortunately the Tut will be delayed until at best tomorrow at worst monday (Father's day and all that). The gold armour is done, all that's left is all the little details gems, purity seals, etc. Don't worry the tut will happen it'll just take a bit longer ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2796717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
their kin Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Just because no one seems to have out and out say it: with any kind of gold/bronze, always base coat with a brown before you paint the metallic. Metallic paints are slightly opaque, and because of this they need an extra step of prep (like red or yellow), so (using GW names) you base coat the area you want gold with calthan brown then apply your dwarf bronze or shining gold, you'll notice a huge difference in the color after only a single coat of metallic paint. -joe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/231920-watering-down-metallics/#findComment-2796751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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