Max_Dammit Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Lets keep this on topic, and a few wolves that when renegade doesnt make an working army. There is a small dumb story in the chaos dex and all of a sudden all wolves fall to chaos with ease while in the past we used to be the most resilient after gray knight, Some writers need to think before the writ stuff like that. I just hate how this story keeps getting used to justify smearing the wolves honour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 It wasn't meant to be a slight at you. I fully agree with the sentiment that Wolves are incorruptible and our codex IS awesome. It's a disappointment that people who claim to favor other armies, can't simply adhere to what's been given to them via their own codices. Far too often, my local store is plagued with proxy wolf armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akutat Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Those Blood Wolves are actually rather well painted and even some rather pleasing conversions. I could even play against these, but it would require beating these nonetheless. But even I must admit that I too have noticed increase in count-as wolf armies. Of course some people just don't care about fluff and play just for sake of playing and winning. But something is seriously wrong if there seems to be (at least in my country) more those count-as armies than actual Wolf armies, so I share your rising concern about that matter. But what is difference between other renegade companies which are mentioned in our codex and this "Huron group"? Are those mentioned companies still loyal to the Allfather? Or is this group the same as those are? Makes me just wonder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 What page is this story on in the Chaos dex? I have a pdf copy, so it's a slow read/scan and I haven't come across it yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akutat Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Wolf of Fenris is in pages 58-59 and the whole "turning to renegade"-thing is in the Wolf Falls-part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 Wolf of Fenris is in pages 58-59 and the whole "turning to renegade"-thing is in the Wolf Falls-part. Ahha, found it. Thanks! Quite a bit more than a little blurb of a paragraph, which was what I was expecting. I can see now why Chaos players would be like, "Wussat? Srooby Snacks?!" and drool all over our codex after a read like this. Still unconscionable, given that it's within their OWN codex that the story resides. Play a chaos army, ya bums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 But what is difference between other renegade companies which are mentioned in our codex and this "Huron group"? Are those mentioned companies still loyal to the Allfather? Or is this group the same as those are? Makes me just wonder. we don't have renegade companies like priates or the likes. what you mean are the lost companies. a company can get become a lost company in a couple of ways: -getting lost through a warpstorm of the likes, unable to make contact to any imperial outpost that can make contact with the fang or making direct contact themselves for a prolonged period. -getting lost or struck in the warp, with the fang unaware of the fact if the company still exists or not -recanting their oath to the new great wolf. this can happen when there's a deep fued between 2 wolf lords and one of them becomes the great wolf. if the other wolf lord is really unsatisfied with this he may revoke his oath of loyalty to the great wolf, taking his company with him on a personal mission/campaign etc. note they don't revoke their oaths of loyalty to russ or the allfather. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akutat Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 -recanting their oath to the new great wolf. this can happen when there's a deep fued between 2 wolf lords and one of them becomes the great wolf. if the other wolf lord is really unsatisfied with this he may revoke his oath of loyalty to the great wolf, taking his company with him on a personal mission/campaign etc. not they don't revoke their oaths of loyalty to russ or the allfather. This was the part that I was thinking and you made it clear. So they are still loyal and stuff, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 But that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to what I had to say about the subject. By your statement, your pretty much telling me that if some writer all of a sudden made Bruce Wayne into a Korean, then we are all suppose to accept the fact that the Bruce Wayne we all grew up to know, is now Korean. If he was the writer for DC he would need to get an ok for this . the yes it would mean that bats is korean now . Did you like BRD ? Does that make it right for all those people who lived and fought in that era? nope because retcons happen all the time . It doesnt matter that SW had once more resilience to taint . Doesnt matter that GK never used demonic blood rituals to get protection from the god of blood or used demon weapons. thing is the last legal offcial fluff pice says they do . Ergo SW go chaos in groups large enough to make warbands . So what is official really? what GW says is as long as it is about named stuff that belongs to them . you can make your fluff for star wolfs and make what ever you want with that , but not with the SW . Just like I cant say that happy chaos family doesnt exist [and if I like it or not doesnt matter here]. I can see now why Chaos players would be like, "Wussat? Srooby Snacks?!" and drool all over our codex after a read like this But you do know that our codex came out before yours and that the number of chaos players that liked the gav dex more then the 3.5 one can probably counted on one hand ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 But that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to what I had to say about the subject. By your statement, your pretty much telling me that if some writer all of a sudden made Bruce Wayne into a Korean, then we are all suppose to accept the fact that the Bruce Wayne we all grew up to know, is now Korean. If he was the writer for DC he would need to get an ok for this . the yes it would mean that bats is korean now . Did you like BRD ? Does that make it right for all those people who lived and fought in that era? nope because retcons happen all the time . It doesnt matter that SW had once more resilience to taint . Doesnt matter that GK never used demonic blood rituals to get protection from the god of blood or used demon weapons. thing is the last legal offcial fluff pice says they do . Ergo SW go chaos in groups large enough to make warbands . So what is official really? what GW says is as long as it is about named stuff that belongs to them . you can make your fluff for star wolfs and make what ever you want with that , but not with the SW . Just like I cant say that happy chaos family doesnt exist [and if I like it or not doesnt matter here]. I can see now why Chaos players would be like, "Wussat? Srooby Snacks?!" and drool all over our codex after a read like this But you do know that our codex came out before yours and that the number of chaos players that liked the gav dex more then the 3.5 one can probably counted on one hand ? Your absolutely correct in your thinking. Thank you for clarifying this to me and everyone here. This was very insightful :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikochet Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Wolf of Fenris is in pages 58-59 and the whole "turning to renegade"-thing is in the Wolf Falls-part. Ahha, found it. Thanks! Quite a bit more than a little blurb of a paragraph, which was what I was expecting. I can see now why Chaos players would be like, "Wussat? Srooby Snacks?!" and drool all over our codex after a read like this. Still unconscionable, given that it's within their OWN codex that the story resides. Play a chaos army, ya bums. Indeed! The Wolves in said paragraph turned to Hurons cause, so theyd simply be implemented into a Red Corsairs army. If anyone wants chaos wolves, they should definitely use the chaos codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232014-blood-wolves/page/3/#findComment-2796265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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