embalancer Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I was wondering is there was any fluff in regards as to what Dante looked like when he didn't have to wear the mask of Sanginius full time, as doesn't he have to wear it full time now after the 2nd war of Armageddon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 No, the mask comes off. I think you are thinking of Tycho. Well, if you ever get any of the Blood Quest comics (which are great!), it shows him without his armor on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embalancer Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 No, the mask comes off. I think you are thinking of Tycho. Well, if you ever get any of the Blood Quest comics (which are great!), it shows him without his armor on. No im pretty sure he can't take the mask off now after going up against someone powerful and also Tycho doesn't have a mask he has a face plate and borderline pychoisis. Also could you give us a description (or better a scanned image) of what he looks like without his armour for those that don't have £150 to spend on a comic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Also could you give us a description (or better a scanned image) of what he looks like without his armour for those that don't have £150 to spend on a comic? If you have 5 seconds to spend on google image search it's literally the first thing to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 you mean this? http://wh40k.lexicanum.de/mediawiki/images/0/00/Dante_auf_Baal.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 And no, I am pretty sure Dante CAN take his mask off. What is your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Dante has some nice nails. I've never heard of him not being able to take his mask off before. I'd like a source on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 In that picture Dante reminds me somehow of Elrond.^^ I also never heared of that Dante wouldn't be able to take off his helmet/ mask. What is your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Its wrong, whatever it is... And Tycho most definately has a mask, not a faceplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I agree with Leo on this one. Dante looks weird, and isn't he supposed to have white short hair, like in his miniature? Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I agree with Leo on this one. Dante looks weird, and isn't he supposed to have white short hair, like in his miniature? Ran On his min he is wearing the mask, so you can't see his hair. At least, thats how I always paint it, that way the mask offers the full protection and vaccuum seal the helmets do. Yes... My masked wearing soliders are wearing helmets fashioned into masks ^_^ +edit+ Also, for those of you who can't afford the Blood Quest comics, they have them in the BL Book of Blood. The only parts that are missing from them are the parts from the second one explaining who and what each chaos patron was. It also has numerous short stories for the BA and successors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I agree with Leo on this one. Dante looks weird, and isn't he supposed to have white short hair, like in his miniature? Ran On his min he is wearing the mask, so you can't see his hair. At least, thats how I always paint it, that way the mask offers the full protection and vaccuum seal the helmets do. Yes... My masked wearing soliders are wearing helmets fashioned into masks ^_^ +edit+ Also, for those of you who can't afford the Blood Quest comics, they have them in the BL Book of Blood. The only parts that are missing from them are the parts from the second one explaining who and what each chaos patron was. It also has numerous short stories for the BA and successors. Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Dante has long hair, blood quest depicts him as that, and its the only source of an unmasked Dante for now.. the hair on the helm, is sculpted hair of the mask. That's how I've always seen it painted. I think most actually paint the SG with gold on the back of the masks also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Again, how do you know that is not just part of the "mask?" They engrave their armor, why would they not engrave their helmets to be masks? The hair is simply the back part of the mask so that they have a sealed environment. Otherwise their suit is not vacuum sealed, and they are very, very exposed. Its just an ornamental rear helmet/mask. +Edit+ Just like BlindHamster said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Again, how do you know that is not just part of the "mask?" They engrave their armor, why would they not engrave their helmets to be masks? The hair is simply the back part of the mask so that they have a sealed environment. Otherwise their suit is not vacuum sealed, and they are very, very exposed. Its just an ornamental rear helmet/mask. +Edit+ Just like BlindHamster said. If Space Marines goes around without helmets for whatever reason, and survive, I can believe that Dante and the Sanguinary Guard would go around with just masks. Besides, he looks plain damn ugly like that in the picture. Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Blood quest takes just as many liberties with the fluff as the Swallow novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Again, how do you know that is not just part of the "mask?" They engrave their armor, why would they not engrave their helmets to be masks? The hair is simply the back part of the mask so that they have a sealed environment. Otherwise their suit is not vacuum sealed, and they are very, very exposed. Its just an ornamental rear helmet/mask. +Edit+ Just like BlindHamster said. If Space Marines goes around without helmets for whatever reason, and survive, I can believe that Dante and the Sanguinary Guard would go around with just masks. Besides, he looks plain damn ugly like that in the picture. Ran The difference is that marines with their helmets off have the option of putting them on if the need arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Exactly. Also, a marine not wearing a helmet has one, and that IS his wargear either way. A marine wearing a mask does not have a helmet readily avaliable unless his mask is one. So the masks, or how I interpret them, is that they are full helmets. There is nothing that contradicts that. Also, I don't see how the BQ contradicts fluff, so it can not be compared to James Swallow's books. It has no set date, no set hour, and no set planets that it interferes with (iirc). Yes, Dante is Chapter Master, so that sets part of the time. However, Dante has led the chapter for a VERY long time, so anytime during that time can count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 blood quest is meant to be relatively recent, Mephiston is Mephiston in it, meaning after 2nd war of Armageddon. That being said, having my copy of the blood quest graphic novel right here, I really don't see anything that seems contradictory, infact, it was written before a great deal of the fluff meaning things got retconned, not that BQ contradicted. Regardless, to me, Dante has long hair because of these books, he's not been described anywhere with short hair (infact, I don't think he's been described anywhere..) so for me.. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/Latest%20Blood%20Angels/P1020423-1.jpg is Dante :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thats really nice! Ah yes, that is right. It has been a while since I have read it, and I don't have it with me right now, but I remember Mephiston now. But yes, you are right :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Blood quest takes just as many liberties with the fluff as the Swallow novels. Bloodquest was awesome so it's allowed :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Blood quest takes just as many liberties with the fluff as the Swallow novels. Bloodquest was awesome so it's allowed :D Bingo :eek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Seems to be a lot of confusion here. Dante wears a helmet as part of his artificer power armour. It is sculpted as (and may in a sense actually be) the death mask of Sanguinius. This is who it looks like, so it shows the hair style Sanguinius had (in the picture of his death, for example, or on the chapter banner) not what Dante's hair style looks like. Dante can certainly take it off. He isn't Dr Doom. He is relatively unusual among the chapter masters in being shown on his model wearing a helmet. I assume this is wysiwyg, as the death mask has in game effects. The guy with the short white hair and the face mask he doesn't take off is Tycho. I would assume Dante has long hair, but the evidence is mixed. Mephiston and Corbulo. One thing is for sure, the BA top brass do not suffer from the male pattern baldness which afflicts the Ultramarines and their successors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Again, how do you know that is not just part of the "mask?" They engrave their armor, why would they not engrave their helmets to be masks? The hair is simply the back part of the mask so that they have a sealed environment. Otherwise their suit is not vacuum sealed, and they are very, very exposed. Its just an ornamental rear helmet/mask. +Edit+ Just like BlindHamster said. If Space Marines goes around without helmets for whatever reason, and survive, I can believe that Dante and the Sanguinary Guard would go around with just masks. Besides, he looks plain damn ugly like that in the picture. Ran The difference is that marines with their helmets off have the option of putting them on if the need arises. And that is completely represented in the miniatures and images right? No, they are not. And Blood Quest was horrible, story wise it was rather good, but the drawing reminded me too much of 80's black and white comics. Ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Look at the back of his head. It's there. It's short. Like the Sanguinary Guard. Ran Again, how do you know that is not just part of the "mask?" They engrave their armor, why would they not engrave their helmets to be masks? The hair is simply the back part of the mask so that they have a sealed environment. Otherwise their suit is not vacuum sealed, and they are very, very exposed. Its just an ornamental rear helmet/mask. +Edit+ Just like BlindHamster said. If Space Marines goes around without helmets for whatever reason, and survive, I can believe that Dante and the Sanguinary Guard would go around with just masks. Besides, he looks plain damn ugly like that in the picture. Ran The difference is that marines with their helmets off have the option of putting them on if the need arises. And that is completely represented in the miniatures and images right? No, they are not. And Blood Quest was horrible, story wise it was rather good, but the drawing reminded me too much of 80's black and white comics. Ran No, it's not, but it's common sense. Here we have the only image of Dante with his mask off that I have seen, and he has long hair. So we have proof in the miniatures and the images. Happy? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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