Better white paints?

[Valkyrion]

Are there any white paints out there that give better coverage than GW?

I'm not talking like perfectly covering black in one hit, but I struggle with white more than any other colour, especially for white helmets on vets that are already undercoated black.

[winterdyne]

There is nothing really wrong with skull white. Remember, you don't highlight white, you highlight TO white. Work through greys and off whites to build up the colour.

 

From black, try - shadow grey (solid basecoat), spacewolf grey (leave recesses grey), skull white (edge highlights, maybe a bit of blending)

[Urb]

From black, try - shadow grey (solid basecoat), spacewolf grey (leave recesses grey), skull white (edge highlights, maybe a bit of blending)

 

I love this combination for white. For a earthy feel try scorched brown, graveyard earth, bleached bone, skull white.

 

One nice thing about skull white. The translucent nature allows for extra smooth blends and highlights.

[Hemal]

Aye the graveyard earth route is a more natural white as it slooks worn and dirty - you could also enhance by lining in gryphonne sepia and badab black thinly in teh panel lines etc

[EmbattledSoul]

Aye the graveyard earth route is a more natural white as it slooks worn and dirty - you could also enhance by lining in gryphonne sepia and badab black thinly in teh panel lines etc

 

 

Does this color combo come out looking like a chaplains skull mask perhaps?

[waaanial00]

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm183/waaanial00/Compliance_Prep/DSC_3349.jpg

 

That is Black basecoat, cover with Deneb stone, wash with Badab Black, layer with washed down Skull White, I then black lined several extreme lines.

 

There is nothing wrong with Skull white as long as you chose a decent mid colour to paint over the black base coat.

[hushrong]

One simple thing to do is add a but of grey to skull white. You get the color you want and it goes on more smoothly with less coats.

 

I prime my minis chaos black, then the areas I want white are painted fortress grey. Over the fortress grey I do a wash of badab black. Then I make a mix of skull white and fortress grey (more white than grey, test it out) with a wet pallette. Usually take me two coats to cover most sides of a terminator and I give a third one just to be sure.

 

This is how I do my Sons of Malice and it has been working great.

[Urb]

Aye the graveyard earth route is a more natural white as it slooks worn and dirty - you could also enhance by lining in gryphonne sepia and badab black thinly in teh panel lines etc

 

 

Does this color combo come out looking like a chaplains skull mask perhaps?

 

It's the combination I use for my skulls/bone, purity seal ribbons, marine chest symbols, to name a few. Still the shadow grey route rocks. Whatever combination you use it's all about layers working up to pure white as winterdyne has already mentioned.

[IronKobra]

I have actually had problems with citadel skull white myself.Not so much for coverage but it has a chalky nature and they is even with differing ratios of water to paint. And I had one particular pot that I just threw out because it just simply wasn't cooperating. The paint i had on the tip of the brush just sloshed around and never stayed where I wanted it despite using glaze mediums.

 

I got a bottle of the Vallejo Game colour white and have found it is a general improvement in most aspects of how it behaves.

[CarbonCopy]

Not so much for coverage but it has a chalky nature and they is even with differing ratios of water to paint.

 

Nearly every white paint is going to have this problem, regardless of manufacturer, to some degree due to the most common pigment used for white; titanium dioxide. If it comes out chalky, you are not thinning enough or that brand's pigment grind is not as fine. Try using intermediate colors before using white. If another brand works better for you, it is likely because the pigment grind is finer.

[Firedrake Cordova]

Are there any white paints out there that give better coverage than GW?

I'm not talking like perfectly covering black in one hit, but I struggle with white more than any other colour, especially for white helmets on vets that are already undercoated black.

As the others have said, highlight from grey/brown to white. ;)

 

If you want to cover a dark area with white, prior to coating with another colour, Vallejo Game Colour White Primer does a good job. :D

[IronKobra]

Not so much for coverage but it has a chalky nature and they is even with differing ratios of water to paint.

 

Nearly every white paint is going to have this problem, regardless of manufacturer, to some degree due to the most common pigment used for white; titanium dioxide. If it comes out chalky, you are not thinning enough or that brand's pigment grind is not as fine. Try using intermediate colors before using white. If another brand works better for you, it is likely because the pigment grind is finer.

 

Oh I have thinned plenty ^_^ I am not an amature painter, I consider myself half decent and know all about thinning and layering in stages. It was a common thing with the citadel white, the Vallejo stuff is completely different and finding it much better ;)

[winterdyne]

bad batch, maybe?

[IronKobra]

bad batch, maybe?

 

Definately wasn't doing what I wanted it to. The vallejo is doing great though :D and cheaper to get hold of and more from a better bottle so I am winning in more ways than one now :)