their kin Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 So I want to do a display board of Crimson Fists blowing the crap out of a city block. To the point: does anyone have any effective ways to imitate broken glass on a base? I want it to look like tiny little pieces as if they were walking in front of a broken window (also I want to make a building exploding from inside, so blown out windows may be necessary). Thanks in advance guys. -joe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
esinhorn Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Cut up the clear plastic blister packaging into shards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCopy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Cut up the clear plastic blister packaging into shards. This... But just be careful what you use to glue it in place with. Use something very matte. And don't use super-glue as it will frost it up, destroying the illusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzap88 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I don't know how this isn't known by everyone, but if you have clear parts that you want to remain clear, use PVA glue (that white craft glue that dries clear) to attach those parts. No issues with frosting whatsoever. -kizzap Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathnid Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 you could get some glass and break it? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You could also glue the shards down with varnish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtoof Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Have you considered a gentle sprinkling of snow flock over the scene to represent the tiny shards? It sparkles nicely and doesn't look much like snow unless you put it on a white base. Obviously make sure it is scattered under the windows instead of in neat little piles B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Depends what style you're shooting for. Realistically, crushed glass (Secret Weapon sell it for frost / ice effects) is the way, combined with larger pieces made from blister pack. Not nice stuff to use though. More cartoonishly, cut up blister pack into tiny shards (use scissors) will also work, but it's not so realistic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2796940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
their kin Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hey guys, thanks to everyone for the suggestions. This definitely gives me something to work with, and now it's time to experiment! Winterdyne: does that crushed glass look okay as actual crushed glass, or does it simulate ice a little too well? I had been looking at that and didn't know if it would work (but hoped it would). -joe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Depends on how you put it down. For ice / frost you really put quite a bit of it down and let it clump a bit. For actual glass you're going to want very very little and have it spread only where the most glass would fall. Probably a better idea to use hairspray or varnish as a fixative / initial adhesive rather than PVA or whatever. If you have an airbrush, you can put the fixative on through that and have more of the glass adhere near where you need it by applying the fixative in quick stages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adeptuscustodus Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 You could also use the glass inserts from a fire alarm button they are made from really thin clear glass about 1mm thick (wear gloves) Then you also have the sparkle effect a bit. As how to glue it down you could maybe use gloss varnish or clear resin. I don't think it's wise to varnish after finishing as so to keep the glass clear unless you want it to look lik it was already there a long time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
their kin Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Hey thanks guys, i'm definitely thinking varnishing would be the perfect adhesive, hadn't even occured to me to us it. I may throush some weathing powder or a fine spray of paint to simulte dust, not sure yet. -joe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus-Alaska Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 salt, salt would look like to scale crushed glass. also, for shard glass, testors makes a glue specifically for clear plastic. also they sell clear glitter at micheals thats made of ground glass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Salt has the issue that it leeches out as soon as moisture hits it. Once you've used it for weathering, you'll understand why not to leave it on the model for long. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurth Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 You could also use the glass inserts from a fire alarm button they are made from really thin clear glass about 1mm thick (wear gloves) Then you also have the sparkle effect a bit. Or, since we're on the subject of real glass, microscope cover slips — they're made of very thin glass that should appear as pretty much scale thickness on a 40K model. Whether or not you can get any of these easily depends on how often you're around microscopes, I suppose ;) (I know I haven't handled any in almost twenty years, but their modelling potential struck me back then already.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2797836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Scale glass, might be worth a look. 0.007" thick. Looks pretty evil to work with though ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2799075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisBC Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 In my local hardware store, in the craft section was a heap of small glass tiles, about 1" square. Broken up with a hammer they would do the job, plus coloured glass (to represent stained glass windows) might stand out better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2801930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungWolf7 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I've seen eggshells used for this very thing (among others). Cheap, easy to use, breaks realistically, doesn't care what adhesive you use. Just needs to be painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2802250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The clear plastic is a solid suggestion, but one major issue with it is the edges of it, the clear plastic can have a "white" edge left on it when cut with an exacto, also light does not travel as readily through clear plastic, you pick up a lot of distortion with it. The best thing to do if you are going to go with plastic, is dip the pieces in Future Floor Polish, let them dry, then place them on the model with white glue. The future helps the light pass through the plastic more easily, and covers up those pesky "cut" marks that can be left on plastic. I have been using it for years on my plastic airplane canopies, here is a tutorial; http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2005...ch_canopies.htm Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2803246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr tough guy Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Or, since we're on the subject of real glass, microscope cover slips — they're made of very thin glass that should appear as pretty much scale thickness on a 40K model. Whether or not you can get any of these easily depends on how often you're around microscopes, I suppose :angry: (I know I haven't handled any in almost twenty years, but their modelling potential struck me back then already.) Seconded, these would be perfect for miniature scale (broken) glass Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232515-broken-glass/#findComment-2803331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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