Chef Wulfen Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 i have had my WL equipped with a storm shield but i was thinking of changing out the SS for a combi and wasnt sure if that is a smart move. i would like to hear your thoughts my brothers and sisters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 i have had my WL equipped with a storm shield but i was thinking of changing out the SS for a combi and wasnt sure if that is a smart move. i would like to hear your thoughts my brothers and sisters combi-weapons are great! but remember... once you use up that one shot, your basically stuck with a normal bolter. Keep in mind when and where your going to use that one shot. To be honest, I think storm bolters are under appreciated in the game! they do just as great, if not better in most circumstances. There is all this hype about combi-weapons, and list online like the wolf guard load out on the Space Wolf blog, but really in the long run, once you use up your combi-weapon shot, your really losing out in the end. But that's just my honest opinion. With a storm bolter, you can keep going and going and going, better stats compared to a regular bolter, not to mention cheaper compared to combi-weapons. So I say, don't believe the hype! save your points where it's needed, and since this is for your Wolf Lord... anything goes! it all comes down to personal preference!!! storm shield is nice, but I've seen terminators go down by mass bolter fire! --EDIT-- correction, I've seen both terminators and thunderwolf packs with storm shields go down by mass bolter fire :wacko: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Not for a wolf lord. All those attacks need some type of armor negating goodness. Are you drop podding him? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothbrok Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 personally i'd stick with the sheild. but if you've got your eart set on a combi then atleast get a belt of russ together they should be roughly the same as the ss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 no podding in. i have 3 drifferent load outs for my WL. depending on the game if he rides in a razor with my grey hunter or in a LRC with WG. or he willl join up with my TWC unit when i get to them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 i have had my WL equipped with a storm shield but i was thinking of changing out the SS for a combi and wasnt sure if that is a smart move. i would like to hear your thoughts my brothers and sisters combi-weapons are great! but remember... once you use up that one shot, your basically stuck with a normal bolter. Keep in mind when and where your going to use that one shot. To be honest, I think storm bolters are under appreciated in the game! they do just as great, if not better in most circumstances. There is all this hype about combi-weapons, and list online like the wolf guard load out on the Space Wolf blog, but really in the long run, once you use up your combi-weapon shot, your really losing out in the end. But that's just my honest opinion. With a storm bolter, you can keep going and going and going, better stats compared to a regular bolter, not to mention cheaper compared to combi-weapons. So I say, don't believe the hype! save your points where it's needed, and since this is for your Wolf Lord... anything goes! it all comes down to personal preference!!! storm shield is nice, but I've seen terminators go down by mass bolter fire! --EDIT-- correction, I've seen both terminators and thunderwolf packs with storm shields go down by mass bolter fire :) yea i was looking at the SB. yea i dont get into the hype really of all the combi weapons. just wanted some info. it it will help i can write up my WL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikochet Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 i have had my WL equipped with a storm shield but i was thinking of changing out the SS for a combi and wasnt sure if that is a smart move. i would like to hear your thoughts my brothers and sisters combi-weapons are great! but remember... once you use up that one shot, your basically stuck with a normal bolter. Keep in mind when and where your going to use that one shot. To be honest, I think storm bolters are under appreciated in the game! they do just as great, if not better in most circumstances. There is all this hype about combi-weapons, and list online like the wolf guard load out on the Space Wolf blog, but really in the long run, once you use up your combi-weapon shot, your really losing out in the end. But that's just my honest opinion. With a storm bolter, you can keep going and going and going, better stats compared to a regular bolter, not to mention cheaper compared to combi-weapons. So I say, don't believe the hype! save your points where it's needed, and since this is for your Wolf Lord... anything goes! it all comes down to personal preference!!! storm shield is nice, but I've seen terminators go down by mass bolter fire! --EDIT-- correction, I've seen both terminators and thunderwolf packs with storm shields go down by mass bolter fire ;) yea i was looking at the SB. yea i dont get into the hype really of all the combi weapons. just wanted some info. it it will help i can write up my WL Had a game versus chaos daemons the other day, the three combi-meltas plus the three meltaguns I had in my 3 grey hunter squads took down 3 wounds each on skarbrand and the keeper of secrets in one turn of shooting and the regular bolters only just managed to finish them of. Combi-meltas are soooooooo worth it for only 5 pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2797653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 here is the way i think ill be going wtih my Wolf Lord Runic Rmour Frost axe Combi-plasma WTN WTT Belt Of Russ 2 Fen Wolves Thunderwolf mount saga of the Warrior Born This next load out is more or less to play a Space Hulk/or small game Terminator Aromur Thunder Hammer Storm Bolter WTN WTT 2 Fen Wolves Saga of the Warrior born Runic Armour Frost Axe Combi-plasma WTN WTT Belt of Russ 2 Fen Wolves(when having the transport room) Saga of the Warrior Born Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2799398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd use saga of the bear just in case your unit gets stuck in with something that can mash your Lord if he fails an invuln save. Warrior born, imo, is really good for when your going to be going for assault, with how you are equiping your lord I would guess your going for shooty, and as such, more survivability is going to serve you better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd use saga of the bear just in case your unit gets stuck in with something that can mash your Lord if he fails an invuln save. Warrior born, imo, is really good for when your going to be going for assault, with how you are equiping your lord I would guess your going for shooty, and as such, more survivability is going to serve you better. he was more cc and i might change him back. i was just wondering if it was good to take a combi over a storm shield Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd use saga of the bear just in case your unit gets stuck in with something that can mash your Lord if he fails an invuln save. Warrior born, imo, is really good for when your going to be going for assault, with how you are equiping your lord I would guess your going for shooty, and as such, more survivability is going to serve you better. he was more cc and i might change him back. i was just wondering if it was good to take a combi over a storm shield Combi are more cost effective for WG...not so much for ICs (pay double what a WG does) Also...when would you use the plasma instead of simply charging in for assault? *EDIT* My mistake...thought this was always for a thunderlord...cavalry charge is same pending difficult terrain. Foot sloggin lord does have a rapid fire but no charge zone If you really want plasma on your IC a plasma pistol goes much better with your frost blade -A+1 for sword + pistol -Can assault after firing -May fire more than once Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I find that the Combi-weapons on a WL is not the most effective use of his weapon load out, a shooty WL is a waste of points, that is what your WG RP or even a Battle Leader if you want the BS 5. A WL should be slammed into CC as quickly as possible so he can start making his points back. A SS is a great piece of equipment, but I would follow with a Thunder Hammer or a Wolf Claw as you are already loosing the +1 attack for 2 CCW. The perfect load out for a Wolf Lord depends on what unit you plan to put him with, their transport and their overall tactical implementation. My WL pretty much runs with a SS/TH, SotBeast or SotBear, WTT and Runic Armor. Nothing like going into the game the feeling of being able to take on anything your opponent has with a good chance of winning. Followed very closely by SS/WC, SotW, WTT, RA, MB put him in the middle of a big slug fest and watch him mow down everything in his path. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 so saga of the bear would be better then warrior? and im thinking of putting him back with the SS. and for 1500 games my WL goes with a grey hunter team and for bigger games his WG with a LRC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 so saga of the bear would be better then warrior? Depends on what is in his other hand, are you going WC or TH? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 so saga of the bear would be better then warrior? Depends on what is in his other hand, are you going WC or TH? i like WCs but i was thinking of a thunder hammer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 so saga of the bear would be better then warrior? Depends on what is in his other hand, are you going WC or TH? i like WCs but i was thinking of a thunder hammer for a Thunder Hammer you need SoT Bear so he can live to Int 1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 thunder hammers always go last am i right with this rule? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 thunder hammers always go last am i right with this rule? They strike at Initiative 1 which, for intents and purposes, is going at the very least joint last with anything else that hits at I1. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2800932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 thunder hammers always go last am i right with this rule? They strike at Initiative 1 which, for intents and purposes, is going at the very least joint last with anything else that hits at I1. ok thanks i more collect then play really. so i was just checking Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232563-combi-weapon-storm-shield/#findComment-2801384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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