Fanon03 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 So I am doing a conversion on the Masters of the Chapter models for Space Wolves and wanted some opinions on one of the conversions I did. Just wanted to make sure the shoulder pad is not over the top on this guy before I go finishing it up. I may be doing another of these but want to test the waters first before going full bore on it. Any constructive input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denrik Greymane Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Its a decent idea, the wolf head is just too large to be considered a shoulder pad in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2798795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
their kin Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Truth be told, I would cut out the neck of the wolf entirely. It sits too far from the model. It looks good as is, but if you removed everything from the ears back (more or less) it would work a lot better I think. You can definitely sculpt fur, so I would say go for it with slightly less protrusion. -joe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2798828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yeah... that's a tad on the large side. I mean, the shoulderpad extends to the same length as his arm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2798829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think the wolf-head helmet from the space wolf sprue would work better for your purposes. Even though it looks a little mechanical, you should be able to sculpt ears and fur on it easily enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2798836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yup, tis on the large side, but nothing wrong with the execution. A smaller wolf head would be best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2798967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanon03 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for all the input. Going to start working on trimming the whole thing down and see if I can better mold the wolf head to the shoulder pad itself. Ill post pics hopefully later today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanon03 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 So I did some creative trimming and dremeling to get the wolf head down to size. Used a little green stuff to get it back on to the shoulder and it is looking a lot better. Maybe still a little over the top but hey they're Space Wolves they're bound to be a little overly ostentatious at times. Any way check out the pics and let me know what y'all think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow2z Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Better, though it still feels like its a little too large. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
koran Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I would say its still on the too large side. Id try to find a smaller wolf head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucus Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The size is not too large if you are using it to portray a real trophy head, painted in fur colours etc. However, I would consider adding more pelt to it once you have the backpack on, going round the neck and down part of the cape at the back. If it's going to be painted as part of the Shoulder pad, then it does look a little oversized, but I've seen bigger!!! Painted gold and suitably shaded/highlighted, it should look fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Styphus Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Do you have a dremel tool? I suggest going to town on the underside, making it concave so it can actually rest securely on the shoulder. Just remove the areas from just behind the lower jaw all the way to where the bottom of the ear starts. Maintain a thickness of 1/2 to 1/4 a centimeter, and the head should look decent on the shoulder. That also leaves less greenstuffing work, which only emphasizes how high up it is in your photo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilToast Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Ya i think if it rested level with the shoulder it would look great but i don't know the angle looks off to me :\ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think the best way to incorporate the head into the model given the size is to make it an actual trophy kill and then sculpt an enormous fur cloak on the model itself. Like this was one of those really big fenresian wolves that even most space wolves give fair distance to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_hhh Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 just a thought , how about putting the wolfs head over the marines head/helmet and have the rest of the pelt draped down his back , few ideas on this page http://www.legionxxiv.org/signum/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It's still too big and will probably look silly if you keep it that way. Here's three things you should do, in order of importance: 1. Remove the wolf's lower jaw. It will reduce the size and make it fit better. 2. Slightly trim down the shoulder pad to make the wolf head sit closer to the collar of the marine. 3. Sculpt some additional fur to the neck of the wolf to tie it in with the cloak. Take a look at the WHFB Highelf mini Korhil. He has a lion head trophy on his shoulder that shows what I mean a bit more clearly. Cheers, Peter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathnid Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 keep it as it is. its an EPIC conversion and it cant get any smaller without using a different wolf head. as long as your happy thats all that matters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 if you want it to look like its part of the armour, i suggest going down the route another person suggested and using the wolf shaped helmet as a base, as an armour decoration its still too big by miles. if its to look like a pelt of some sort then i suggest getting hold of the old space wolf pelt (can be found on gws website and most likely most bits stores) it has a smaller wolfs head on it, which if you make a suitable press mould for you can use to good effect, as can the one from the terminator sprues if cut down suitably to fit round a power armoured shoulder. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It does look better but still too big. Echoing others I would suggest making it as part of a wolf pelt. In which case the additional bulk should stop it from looking oversized. Otherwise it would need to get smaller. Keep at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232643-conversion-question/#findComment-2799852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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