The 13th Goat Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I wouldn't be hugely surprised if, at some point, the notion of Space Wolf Successor Chapters actually came into being. Or, as with Battle of the Fang, there were reasons the Space Wolves can't make Successors. But with the increase in legion sizes, I suspect that - at some point - we'll get an "updated" look at the Space Wolves and their ability to contribute to new Foundings. I could easily be wrong. Like I said, it's just a guess. Just make the White Scars a successor. It's not like they do anything important; The Khan: "I have retaken the space port!" Dorn: "But alas, we still need to allow 30 minutes for check-in and security...." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232695-space-wolf-legion/page/7/#findComment-2976267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerelius Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 has anyone thought that since the Wolves were unleashed previously, the may not have got back up to full strength when they were sent to retrieve Magnus. pg172, The Outcast Dead. Conversation between Gregoras and Kai. Quote - Gregoras took a deep breath as he considered the question. "Not as such. I do not believe that Magnus has betrayed us, at least not intentionally, but he has acted with such hubris that there will be no forgiveness for this act. The Emperor will have no choice but to make an example of him." "what does that mean?" "You know what it means" "No I don't" Kai said "Tell me" "It mean the Wolves will be loosed again" Kai shivered, unsure at what Gregoras meant, End Quote (sorry if i did the quote thing wrong) This obviously proves that the Wolves were unleashed against another Legion, and not everyone knew about it except for the upper levels of power within the Imperium. That would go a long way to explain the Wolves low numbers. Just a thought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232695-space-wolf-legion/page/7/#findComment-2978071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 has anyone thought that since the Wolves were unleashed previously, the may not have got back up to full strength when they were sent to retrieve Magnus. pg172, The Outcast Dead. Conversation between Gregoras and Kai. Quote - Gregoras took a deep breath as he considered the question. "Not as such. I do not believe that Magnus has betrayed us, at least not intentionally, but he has acted with such hubris that there will be no forgiveness for this act. The Emperor will have no choice but to make an example of him." "what does that mean?" "You know what it means" "No I don't" Kai said "Tell me" "It mean the Wolves will be loosed again" Kai shivered, unsure at what Gregoras meant, End Quote (sorry if i did the quote thing wrong) This obviously proves that the Wolves were unleashed against another Legion, and not everyone knew about it except for the upper levels of power within the Imperium. That would go a long way to explain the Wolves low numbers. Just a thought. But, their is no reference on time. Could have been 30 years ago or 250 years ago. Also my assumption is that the Emp. would have given them enough resources so they did not become too mauled. No sense in obliterating two Legions when you only have your sights on one. Also, replacing marines occurred more quickly during the Great Crusade but with riskier results. post GC, marines took greater care in their creation process. (Can't remember where I read this) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232695-space-wolf-legion/page/7/#findComment-2978635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 has anyone thought that since the Wolves were unleashed previously, the may not have got back up to full strength when they were sent to retrieve Magnus. pg172, The Outcast Dead. Conversation between Gregoras and Kai. Quote - Gregoras took a deep breath as he considered the question. "Not as such. I do not believe that Magnus has betrayed us, at least not intentionally, but he has acted with such hubris that there will be no forgiveness for this act. The Emperor will have no choice but to make an example of him." "what does that mean?" "You know what it means" "No I don't" Kai said "Tell me" "It mean the Wolves will be loosed again" Kai shivered, unsure at what Gregoras meant, End Quote (sorry if i did the quote thing wrong) This obviously proves that the Wolves were unleashed against another Legion, and not everyone knew about it except for the upper levels of power within the Imperium. That would go a long way to explain the Wolves low numbers. Just a thought. But, their is no reference on time. Could have been 30 years ago or 250 years ago. Also my assumption is that the Emp. would have given them enough resources so they did not become too mauled. No sense in obliterating two Legions when you only have your sights on one. Also, replacing marines occurred more quickly during the Great Crusade but with riskier results. post GC, marines took greater care in their creation process. (Can't remember where I read this) Going through this rationaly I have identified something interesting. Space Wolves have one of the most select and slowest recruitment methods of all the Astartes, this is going to lower numbers considerably. When you think of Crusade era legions and how other Chapters mass recruited, the Lion converted all his knights for instance while Corvus recruited his liberation army. Prospero burns suggests that the Wolf method of recruitment was the same back then as it is for 40k era. This would create a smaller (if argualy more elite) force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232695-space-wolf-legion/page/7/#findComment-2979290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Sergeant Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 . Also, replacing marines occurred more quickly during the Great Crusade but with riskier results. post GC, marines took greater care in their creation process. (Can't remember where I read this) It's in pretty much any reference to the creation of the Codex Astartes, and probably in a lot of the rulebooks. Part of the guidelines established by the Codex Astartes were the manner of selecting and creating Space Marines, with far more rigorous tests to ensure a higher quality result. Pretty much all of Page 8 of Codex: Space Marines, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232695-space-wolf-legion/page/7/#findComment-2981367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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