Plaguecaster Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ironclad Avengers Symbol and colour scheme The symbol is a silver shield with a black cross on it the colours I am using are skull white, chaos black and chainmail. Battle cry "Never forget, never retreat, only avenge!!!" Founding and geenseed They are an ancient chapter that was founded during the 3rd founding from their parent chapter the Red Talons to patrol the Segmentum Obscurus. Their geneseed is relatively free of any mutation though like the majority of chapters that have the iron hands geneseed they have an obsession with machines venerating the machine spirits of their ancient wargear making extensive use of bionics by replacing their hands to honour their Primarch as well as embracing the teachings of their Primarch following the Scriptorium of Iron . Beliefs The Ironclad Avengers are a fiercely loyal chapter who rever the Emperor as a god worshiping him and their primarch Ferrus Manus following the roughly the same beliefs as the Iron Hands following the guidance of the Scriptorium of Iron. They believe in the fabled Tomb of the Ironclad where their Primarch is rumored to lie mortally wounded and they are actively searching for it in order to for the return of their Primarch who will unify all of mankind and destroy chaos once and for all. They have a great hatred for Chaos marines especially those of the Emperor's Children who they believe must be eliminated as well as any in order to avenge their fallen Primarch and are currently hunting them down, also hunt down any renegade chapters or chaos warbands dedicated to Slaanesh as the Ironclad avengers hate all those who worship the lord of pleasure and many Slaanesh warbands have been destroyed by them. Fleet The Ironclad Avengers have no homeworld instead they are a large fleet based chapter that have an ancient pre heresy star fortress that they found abandoned and severly damaged adrift in space, they have fully repaired it naming it Gorgon's fury and are using it as their fortress monastary with each company occuplying a part of the fort. Their Star fort has been identified in many parts of the Imperium hunting down both traitors and xenos alike and is currently near the Cadian Gate hunting down an Emperor's Children Warband. Initiation Since they suffer horrendous casulties in their ongoing crusade to eliminate the Emperor's Children each company is responsible for their own recruitment and the training of the companies scouts though when losses have been too much the entire chapter will mobilize in order to find possible recruits for initiation into the chapter. They recruit from a wide range of worlds mostly feral or feudal (though they will even sometimes take young guardsmen from imperial guard regiments they fight beside who impressed them in battle) where the paladins and preceptors deem which of the aspirants are worthy to become space marines. Trials of the Gorgon Those deemed worthy to join the Ironclad Avengers must pass the"Trials of the Gorgon" which are 3 tests in honour of the physical trials Ferrus Manus went through to increase his strength and resilence. The firsts test know as the "iron journey" where they must journey though a hostile or dangerous terrain and survive, the second called "slaying of Asirnoth" where the initiates must slay a dangerous beast (usually from the planet or others that have been captured especially for this task). Those few who survive must take the final test known as the "duel between gods" where initiates must forge a weapon and duel with a Preceptor who is unarmoured in order to prove they are not weak as well as impressing the Preceptor in battle. Those that survive are then taken to the star fort with the other recruits from the other companies where they are screened for any mutation, taint as well as their warrior spirit. They are then implanted with the geneseed and other organs that make a space marine those that survive becoming scouts fighting many battles until they are deemed ready to become a fully fledged space marine, where they must forge their own shield before joining the company they were recruited from. When they die the shield they forged will be restored or replicated (if destroyed or damaged) and placed in the shrine of the fallen in the heart of the Gorgon's fury where every fallen battle brother of the Ironclad Avengers shield they forged when they became a space marine is displayed to honour those who died in the Emperor's and the Primarch's name. Organization The Ironclad Avengers are a crusading chapter which are organized into 10 companies which are like the clan companies of the Iron hands where there is no veteran or scout company instead each company is a separate fighting force which will generally fight alone returning to their star fort after each mission or battle unless the mission or battle is of great importance to the chapter then the entire chapter will mobilize and wage war. They are highly competitive constantly fighting duels as well as performing tests of skill and strength to prove which company is better which is encouraged by the leaders of the chapter to improve the strength and loyalty of each battle brother. In their chapter the Chapter Master is known as Grand Master, Apothcaries as Hospitallars, Chaplins as Preceptors and captains as Castellans. The chapter has no techmarines or librarians instead they have Paladins which are a cross between both who maintain the chapter's armoury as well as using their psychic powers to search for any knowledge that involve the Emperor's children. With the leadership of the chapter the 1st company is lead by the Grand Master, the 2nd is lead by the High Preceptor, the 3rd by the Grand Hospitallar and the 4th by the Master Paladin, the other companies are commanded by a captain. Though they have a grand master they still have a great council in which the leader of each company governs what battle or mission each company is responsible for and any important information that concerns the Emperor's children, though the Grand Master is still the leader of the chapter. Combat doctrine They are masters of armoured assaults making wide use of land raiders as well as thunderhawks supported by heavy fire power like predators and dreadnoughts. They have no terminator armour suits due to the Gorgon massacre by an Emperors's children led by Lucius the eternal where over half of the first company and Grand Master Konrad were ambushed and slaughtered when their enemies summoned hoards of Slannesh daemons, during the early stages of Abaddons 4th black crusade. They fight with a fierce zeal and will usually never retreat from a battle (unless of course the Emperors children have been sighted on another world) as a result they have suffered horrendous losses though they are highly feared by their enemies as even when their enemy surrenders they don't stop until their is no one left as a result entire sub-sectors that rebelled against the imperium have surrendered rather than fight the Ironclad Avengers though they offer no mercy to any traitors. Most non-iron hands succesor chapters regard them as heretics as they have come to blows with them a few times (mainly ultramarines and their succesors) over matters concerning their tactics, beliefs as well as not agreeing with the other chapters views (especially concerning the paladins) though they will fight alongside the Imperial Guard and Inquisition. They maintain close ties to the Mechanicus who supply the chapter with superior equipment, weaponry as well as helping to maintain and repair their star fort in return for helping the Mechanicus when they need help sometimes performing dangerous missions or vital tasks for them. what do you think this is my second attempt at a DIY chapter looking they were orignally called the teutonic Avengers but I though I should change it after some helpful feedback. Also Is the chapter symbol alright if not any suggestions for a simple yet cool symbol would be appreciated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradill Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Seems good all in all, not too much to pick up on. On the note of the chapter symbol; I feel it's still got that teutonic feel. Perhaps an Adeptus Mechanicus Cog style symbol or such like.. I like the idea of avenging Mannus, where does this desire come from? The Iron Hands, Sons of Medusa and all the other successors have equal reason to hunt down the EC, what makes the Ironclad Avengers act upon it? Is their eventual goal to kill Fulgrim and present his head to the emperor or is the ideal the complete destruction of all Slaanesh worshippers? Paradill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/#findComment-2799825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monkey Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Not a bad wee IA, would probably agree with Paradill about the icon, it would make sense to have some sort of cog in the design. Especialy if they venerate thier Primach so much. It would be nice to see some mentions of the overall character of the chapter. You mention they rever the Emperor as a god, so are they super pious with a good dose of "burn the witch" thrown in... or are they more a pataint chapter with a terrible rage? You mention the scriptorium of Iron a few times, I must confess I know little about the Iron Hands, it might be an idea to expand slightly on this, and why it is so important to the Ironclad Avengers. It needn't be a massive bit, but enough to get the point across. Anyways toodleoo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/#findComment-2799889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks for the advice I will work on it and come up with a better symbol for them how does a Cog symbol on a shield sound also any ideas how to add more character to them as I am a bit stuck cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/#findComment-2800469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Hello, I'm NightrawenII, nice to meet you. I'm have come here to slaughter your ideas, punish your foolishness and, generally speaking, drive you off this board in tears... *cough* Joking aside. :D Don't take anything I say too seriously. I'm rude, harsh and sarcastic, but there is no evil intention behind it. -_- If you want to know, how to do these fancy headers look here. I'm not sure if you read Guide to DIYing, Octaguide 2.0 and Liber Honorous Index (the pics are click-able :lol: ). - These should spark some new and interesting ideas. Now, onto C&C... Founding and geenseed They are an ancient chapter that was founded during the 3rd founding from their parent chapter the Sons of Medusa to patrol the Segmentum Obscurus. - According to the last Imperial Armour, the Sons of Medusa were "founded" during Nova Terra Interregnum, some time around M35. Beliefs They believe in the fabled Tomb of the Ironclad where their Primarch is rumored to lie mortally wounded and they are actively searching for it in order to for the return of their Primarch who will unify all of mankind and destroy chaos once and for all. - Errm, is this something official or fan-made? Because according to Iron Hands themselves, the Ferrus Manus ascended to an unearthly paradise realm where he fights eternally, becoming ever stronger. And so it is said that Ferrus Manus left the world of Man, preparing for the time when he is required again, that Time of Darkness when his light is needed most of all. They have a great hatred for Chaos marines especially those of the Emperor's Children who they believe must be eliminated as well as any in order to avenge their fallen Primarch and are currently hunting them down, also hunt down any renegade chapters or chaos warbands dedicated to Slaanesh as the Ironclad avengers hate all those who worship the lord of pleasure and many Slaanesh warbands have been destroyed by them. - Nice touch, but I would re-word it into something similar to DA's Hunt of the Fallen. Initiation Since they suffer horrendous casulties in their ongoing crusade to eliminate the Emperor's Children each company is responsible for their own recruitment - This has been beaten to death several times before... The Codex way is more faster and fluent, because the Space Marines are created like on assembly line. where the paladins and preceptors deem which of the aspirants are worthy to become space marines. - Rule of Thumb during writing: Don't talk about titles, roles or ranks before you properly introduce them. Trials of the Gorgon where initiates must forge a weapon - You are going to hate this question: Why? where they are screened for any mutation, taint as well as their warrior spirit. - I thought that was the point of Trials? :) where they must forge their own shield before joining the company they were recruited from - Why the shield? and Why the specific company? - Btw, where the Scouts belong? Organization With the leadership of the chapter the 1st company is lead by the Grand Master, the 2nd is lead by the High Preceptor, the 3rd by the Grand Hospitallar and the 4th by the Master Paladin, the other companies are commanded by a captain. - Hmm... Why? Combat doctrine They have no terminator armour suits due to the Gorgon massacre by an Emperors's children led by Lucius the eternal where over half of the first company and Grand Master Konrad were ambushed and slaughtered when their enemies summoned hoards of Slannesh daemons, during the early stages of Abaddons 4th black crusade. - This sentence is overcomplicated and confusing. - Also the 4th Black Crusade was in 001.M34, six thousand years ago. they are highly feared by their enemies as even when their enemy surrenders they don't stop until their is no one left as a result entire sub-sectors that rebelled against the imperium have surrendered rather than fight the Ironclad Avengers though they offer no mercy to any traitors. - You know, this will have entirely opposite effect. Any traitor will fight to his fullest, because he knows that IA offer no mercy. They maintain close ties to the Mechanicus who supply the chapter with superior equipment, weaponry as well as helping to maintain and repair their star fort in return for helping the Mechanicus when they need help sometimes performing dangerous missions or vital tasks for them. - Strange, I thought they don't have any TDA...? :rolleyes: Cheers, NightrawenII. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/#findComment-2800961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 Thanks for the feed back NightrawenII have changed their parent chapter to Red Talons BeliefsThey believe in the fabled Tomb of the Ironclad where their Primarch is rumored to lie mortally wounded and they are actively searching for it in order to for the return of their Primarch who will unify all of mankind and destroy chaos once and for all.[/i] - Errm, is this something official or fan-made? Because according to Iron Hands themselves, the Ferrus Manus ascended to an unearthly paradise realm where he fights eternally, becoming ever stronger. And so it is said that Ferrus Manus left the world of Man, preparing for the time when he is required again, that Time of Darkness when his light is needed most of all. -This is actually official as if you read Iron Hands by Jonathan Green in the novel Iron Father Gdolkian makes reference to a legend of the Iron hands that the body of Ferrus Manus who was in stasis was taken by the servants of Mars to the Crucible know as the tomb of the Ironclad. I have read both this novel and Fulgrim ( which I really disliked) and the idea that Ferrus Manus's body is hidden somewhere in the galaxy waiting to be found just sounds awesome so what better idea than making it the "holy Grail'' that my chapter is seeking Combat doctrineThey have no terminator armour suits due to the Gorgon massacre by an Emperors's children led by Lucius the eternal where over half of the first company and Grand Master Konrad were ambushed and slaughtered when their enemies summoned hoards of Slannesh daemons, during the early stages of Abaddons 4th black crusade. - This sentence is overcomplicated and confusing. - Also the 4th Black Crusade was in 001.M34, six thousand years ago. -Working on changing this though to sound better though just because it was over six thousand years does not mean they have replaced all of their terminator, look at the Iron Hands they lost the majority of their Terminator Armour ten thousand years ago during the Horus Heresy and they still have limited numbers of them once again thanks for the feedback and I am currently working on fixing most of it up should have it finish in a few days or even a week at most. cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232701-ironclad-avengers/#findComment-2801681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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