Pinning Test Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 In the Codex, the war-gear entry for a biker mentions "Bolt pistol or Chainsword": So, does that mean a biker only gets *one* CCW, and thus gets no extra attack? Also, the wording for a sergeant's equipment options is "the Sergeant may take a power weapon or power fist". Does that mean that the Sergeant can take the power weapon *on top* of his CCW, and thus has an extra attack? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 It hasn't been faq'd so yes that is correct. As for the sarge if he upgrades and gets a power weapon or fist he'll then have two CCW(not that it matters with the fist) because it doesn't say he replaces any weapons just that he gets the upgrade. In essence they get the attacks in their profile and the sarge gets an extra attack only if he upgrades to a power weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaika87 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not quite. Taking a Power Fist doesn't give you an extra attack, per pg 42 of the BRB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Hail Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 um, he said you only get an exra attack if you give him a power weapon, but you are correct as we all have had that guy who swears fists get an extra attack with a pistol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinning Test Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 The first thing (among two or three) to fix with the next faq/codex/version, has to be the CC Ravenwing. Sure it's a great antitank lil' unit, but the banner upgrade option really goes to waste. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droma Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not quite. Taking a Power Fist doesn't give you an extra attack, per pg 42 of the BRB. Which is what I meant when I said (not like it matters with the fist) sorry if that was unclear. I did spell it out exactly later in my post though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The first thing (among two or three) to fix with the next faq/codex/version, has to be the CC Ravenwing. Sure it's a great antitank lil' unit, but the banner upgrade option really goes to waste. In a 6 men bike squad, with a PW sarge its nice to get those extra attacks... not precisely over the top but again, only 25 points... the apothecary on the other hand is a steal at 15. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 In the Codex, the war-gear entry for a biker mentions "Bolt pistol or Chainsword": So, does that mean a biker only gets *one* CCW, and thus gets no extra attack? Yes. RW bikes(and SM bikes) suck in close combat. So, you stay away and shoot with them. However, note than C: SM command Squads that are given bikes do have that extra close combat weapons(and can be armed with other things besides) and so do get that +1 attack(with a few exceptions). C: SM Command Squads on bikes can hit pretty hard, but RW "Command Squads" do not, they being just a regular RAS with the Apothecary and Standard Bearer upgrades(i.e. they have no extra CCWs). Also, the wording for a sergeant's equipment options is "the Sergeant may take a power weapon or power fist". Does that mean that the Sergeant can take the power weapon *on top* of his CCW, and thus has an extra attack? No. Read the rules for power fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyon Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 That is right, normal bikers do not get extra attack, but you could trick them out so you have one guy with melta/pistol and melta/ccw or flamer if thats the kind of squad you want. And mix normal guys with ccw and normal guys with pistol, kind of a 1 wound nob bike squad for wound allocation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233007-ravenwing-and-ccw/#findComment-2803909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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