spjaco Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Does anyone have any idea what they could be? Or what rules could be used as "Counts As"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 well from what I know about "count as" per any codex. Is that you could count Leonatus as anyone, heck you could name a dread Leo and say this is what happened to him. The "count as" rule allows you to come up with your own story per using another 'standard' character's rules. hope that helps answer your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'd use Seth's rules for him. The Blade Encarmine he has in the story could represented by Seth's special chainsword. I'd prefer to use Astorath for him (astorath's Axe rules would be great for the Blade Encarmine), but I can't recall Leonatus using a jump pack ever. If you want to play Leonatus when he is searching for the Blade, perhaps Captain Tycho's rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Offering out the official published rules for him, even in a PM, is against board rules and can result in warnings. If anyone knows of an official GW link where his rules are still posted (they're not on the US page, but its possible another country GW page might have them) posting that would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 If anyone knows of an official GW link where his rules are still posted (they're not on the US page, but its possible another country GW page might have them) posting that would be fine. Only offical rules I know is with the Black Library model. Overall I would possible count as with a BA Marine captain as Leonatus has Iron Halo, Frag, Krak. While the Sword he loss in the comic, you could rep this by master crafted as I don't think BA get Relic blades bare in mind it been a while since I last check the codex. As it was a Power Weapon if memory servie me right. Like wise I'd possible give him Artifier armour. Or as said Tycho, as someone did a conversion (Bobby?) where he had a combi melta. I still need to get around to re-painting my Leonatus model. Great comic & well worth any Blood Angels & Chaos player to check out. IP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Offering out the official published rules for him, even in a PM, is against board rules and can result in warnings. If anyone knows of an official GW link where his rules are still posted (they're not on the US page, but its possible another country GW page might have them) posting that would be fine. EXACTLY what I mean, just the link or the website name would be enough, nothing against TOU. Least not that I ever heard. Think I have worn out my search feature trying to find it. Thanks for the help all, especially the cool suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 AFAIK he was a generic captain... Mind you Dante saw great potential in him but other then that... he isent mentioned as beeing a better shot then other captains, he isent mentioned as beeing better in combat then other captains. generic captain with bolt pistol and chainsword (or even bolter/chainsword) id say... really, in the stories he is awesome but if you take his wargear as such hes basicly a buffed sargeant :P GW's fluffhammer strikes again! :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 Its like they took a wiffleball bat to every interesting character. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 I was wondering how valid it would be to run a character like Telion or Chronus in a Blood Angels list, you know a "counts as" but painted up in BA colors? I seem to recall it said it would be valid in Codex: SM. Is this true? It seems that with as much armor as the BA have they should have a Chronus type character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If you're saying use the rules for those characters the answer would be firm no out of me. It says in the C:SM that you could use those and any other character in the codex as counts as characters from any other Chapter covered by that codex. Just like ours says you could use Tycho's rules to represent a Angels Sanguine or any other successor character. You could only do this with you're opponents consent. -Samirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Okay, got it. So pretty much I could use the models with BA paint and patterns but in order to use the stats the opponent has to consent. That's not so bad. Telion is one thing, like I said, but Chronus makes a lot of sense based upon the amount of heavy armor the Blood Angels can field. I have to admit I wonder why the Ultra's got a character like that and not BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If you're saying use the rules for those characters the answer would be firm no out of me. It says in the C:SM that you could use those and any other character in the codex as counts as characters from any other Chapter covered by that codex. Just like ours says you could use Tycho's rules to represent a Angels Sanguine or any other successor character. You could only do this with you're opponents consent. -Samirus ^^ this :lol: basicly using counts as for units from your own codex is ok. taking them from different codexi, not so much... basicly the same idea as a guard player taking a lictor from the nid codex. sure ultramarines and blood angels are both space marines but they are still different armies :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Okay, got it. So pretty much I could use the models with BA paint and patterns but in order to use the stats the opponent has to consent. That's not so bad. Telion is one thing, like I said, but Chronus makes a lot of sense based upon the amount of heavy armor the Blood Angels can field. I have to admit I wonder why the Ultra's got a character like that and not BA. I would imagine its simply because thats no the way that Blood Angels are intended to be played. Yes they can field the armor but when you get right down to any Blood Angel would rather put the enemies of the Emperor to the sword rather than grind them under treads... leave that to the mortals in the Imperial Guard. -Samirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Okay, got it. So pretty much I could use the models with BA paint and patterns but in order to use the stats the opponent has to consent. That's not so bad. Telion is one thing, like I said, but Chronus makes a lot of sense based upon the amount of heavy armor the Blood Angels can field. I have to admit I wonder why the Ultra's got a character like that and not BA. I would imagine its simply because thats no the way that Blood Angels are intended to be played. Yes they can field the armor but when you get right down to any Blood Angel would rather put the enemies of the Emperor to the sword rather than grind them under treads... leave that to the mortals in the Imperial Guard. -Samirus That makes sense. Thanks guys. Still I like the idea of using a Telion model as a Scout Sergeant if for no other reason than it does stand out. It will just be a BA scout sergeant is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 Wonder if they will bring Leonatus back and assign him to Deathwatch..... Maybe there is a fluff story there..... Never heard if they killed him off or not. Just that two of his subordinates departed to free him from the Eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Spjaco here's what you could do. paint up a blood angel army use there codex.., but if you going to buy Telion, and Chronus go ahead paint them up BA colors too. And when you get bored playing BA switch to 'nilla marines and try your luck there. I personally do that with my Letifers it drives my gamer buddies up the wall as they will never now what list i'll pop up with muahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Spjaco here's what you could do. paint up a blood angel army use there codex.., but if you going to buy Telion, and Chronus go ahead paint them up BA colors too. And when you get bored playing BA switch to 'nilla marines and try your luck there. I personally do that with my Letifers it drives my gamer buddies up the wall as they will never now what list i'll pop up with muahaha. That is the best darn idea I have heard in a while. Mix the best of both worlds and keep em guessing, though I think I will avoid Calgar in my BA list, he is just too much over the top IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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