The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hi! the question is quite simple but also difficult to answer, A monolit can teleport an necron lord that is death to re-roll the we´ll be back? I think that is not possible but I´m not sure. In fact a friend used it in that way and I had to kill the same looner lord 7 times!! (yes he was killed every turn :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I admit that I don't understand this post. Are you asking if a Monolith's teleport ability is able to beam a downed Lord to it before it resurrects? I believe it cannot do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkGuard Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 From what I know about Necrons, after WBB rolls the Monolith can use its portal to allow those models that failed WBB to try again. However, that unit must then deploy up to 2" away from the portal in the same manner as a transport vehicle. I'd imagine this extends to the Necron Lord, and is another reason why I hate Monoliths. The first time my Orbital Bombardment hits it got 21 hits, killing around 16. Only 1 stayed down after the combination of Res Orb, WBB and Monolith Portal. But then my Honour Guard munched them so I got the last laugh :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Sorry If the post was not clear enough what I mean is if a looner necron lord can use a monolith to be teleported when he is death. I´m not sure because he is alone so there is no unit to teleport (WBB is roll at the begining of the turn and If you fail the model is "removed") But I know is a bit confusing but try to understand me please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think he means that the necron lord is alone i.e not part of a squad. It dies, fails it's wbb roll but instead of being removed from the table the guy then uses a monolith power to teleport it to the monolith power and reroll the wbb roll? I think that is the gist of it but I have never read the necron codex so couldn't tell you for sure, and so have no opinion on the ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Thank you arikel you explained the situation better than me. So... I hope someone could help me now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 My buddy plays Necrons, I can call him. <3 Unknown Father, the word you are looking for is "loner". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'm pretty sure this is legal, though the lord would have to be placed near the monolith, though going by memory and don't know if i can be bothered to dig my necron codex out heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Okay, we have our local Necron Insurgent about to post a response. <3 Stand by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I believe the Lord needs to have a Phylactery to make this happen, not just a Resurrection Orb. But other than that, yes, its completely legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falldown Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hey Fath, The Necron lord is unique to the "We'll be back" rule. In general a Necron needs a similar unit of the same type within 6" of itself or one of its squad members to get a WBB. This is not the case for the Necron Lord. As long as the Lord can take a WBB, they can always take a WBB regardless of if it is on its own or not. That being said, if the Lord fails its WBB, it can then be teleported through the Monolith portal to re-roll the WBB as long as it is within 18" of any part of the Monolith. Sorry Fath, your friend was playing correctly. You do not need a Rez Orb or Phylactry to have this happen. You would only need a Rez Orb if the attack that took the Lord down was a power weapon, double str, or anything else that does not allow a WBB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 That's right, the Phylactery just improves the Lord's WBB to give him a chance at more than 1 wound. Darned faulty memory :) Thanks for the clarification, falldown :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Something Wycked is DEFINITELY the Necron Insurgent! Even if I didn't call him. @__@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It would be weird to get a call from Boston. ;) But not unwelcome. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 The same question could be made with any other unit that is completly destroyed and none is repaired. What make me think is not possible is that the WBB is rolled at the begining of the turn and if you fail the model is removed so in the movement phase that model is not on the table and of course not at 18´of the monolith. That is what I think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Per the Necron FAQ: Q. When do you remove Necrons that fail theirWBB roll? A. Necrons who fail their WBB roll are removed unless you intend to use a Monolith portal to teleport the unit during the current move. So yeah, its perfectly legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falldown Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hey Again Fath, Interesting. Ok I was wrong. Sorry guys. The subtext of the Monolith portal says this, "If there are no eligible reserves, and a Necron unit (list of Necrons) and any Necron Lord that has joined such a unit is at least partially within 18" of the Monolith, they may phase out and re-emerge from the portal. Any models in the unit that although eligible to self-repair, failed their "We'll be back" roll at the start of the turn and were removed, may re-roll once as they emerge from the portal. If you intend to use the portal in this way during a turn then leave models that failed to self-repair on their sides until the end of the Movement phase." From this I would say the Lord cannot teleport solo. Honest mistake, I've played Crons for a while now and thought I knew this back and front. First time I realized that Necron Lord is not specifically listed as available to teleport. To sum up. Lord cannot teleport solo. If he was in a squad he could roll twice. The Phylactery : If a Necron Lord is eligible for a WBB, it comes back to life with 1 wound on a 4, 2 wounds on a 5, and 3 wounds on a 6. If the Lord does not have a Phylactery, it always comes back with one wound left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 ^_^ oh wow. That changes a lot. If you destroy the squad around the Lord, and then take the Lord down in a following turn, he gets only 1 shot and doesn't get the Monolith insurance. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 Damned!! Now you are right (By the way with that I had to kill 7 times the same necron lord, it was horrible ^_^ Thanks ereryone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falldown Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Yeah. He was doing it wrong. Like I said though, I was wrong too. If you had been playing against me I would have done the same, until I looked at the rule again in detail. Lucky for him that he rolled so well for so long though. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Father Posted June 29, 2011 Author Share Posted June 29, 2011 oh! so finally it can´t? you are right you just can´t teleport a loner lord. good news for me!! ;) :D ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 oh! so finally it can´t? you are right you just can´t teleport a loner lone lord. "Loner" is the noun; "lone" is the adjective. (Like "The Lone Ranger.") <3 Happy to help. ^_^ Kill more Necrons! EDIT: I don't mean to be a jerk re: English but I had offered the correct word before and was worried I'd been confusing. Sorry. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 yeah the lord must be with a squad eligible for teleportation, also he must be eligible for the WBB roll in order to be granted a re-roll by the portal.. if someone kills him with power weapons and he doesnt have a res orb, or runs him down during assault.. theres no helping him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Glad I could help make things clearer:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I would argue that a Necron Lord as a unit is eligible- 1) hes a unit. 2) hes got the necron rule. 3) Id be hard pressed to say hes not part of his own unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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