TiguriusX Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Side note: Jaws uses the Iniative provided on the profile of the target(s), even with hammer time that I value isnt reduced to 1. Page 8 of brb. I'm not sure what your BRB says but page 8 on mine says: In order to take the test, roll a D6. To succeed, you must score equal to or lower than the value of the characteristic involved. Note that if a 6 is rolled, then the model automatically fails the test regardless of the characteristic's value or any other modifier that might apply, and conversely a 1 is always a success To me that says you can modify a characteristic...and the TH expressly modifies the characteristic known as INITIATIVE down to 1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2807569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 don't have the BRB on me now, but doesn't it state somewhere that all non-ld characteristic tests are always on the unmodified chracteristic? it does not, unless it's in some obscure location that has nothing do with characteristics or their tests, based on the index. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2807583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksad Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 if you're right about that, consider me one happy camper :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2807725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I like how much effort so many of us are putting into making this rule not work. It makes me happy that we're failing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2807764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I like how much effort so many of us are putting into making this rule not work. It makes me happy that we're failing. Aye. Wolf players, the Fang in particular, tend to gravitate towards handicapping ourselves until we can -prove- that we're right. Most other armies will simply assume that the most powerful interpretation is the correct one (See: Gray Knights+Dreadknight Shunt, Doomfist, et cetera, et cetera). Makes me proud to be a Wolf, it does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2807774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthstar Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 At first I thought this was the thread from last month until I realized I hadn't.posted in here yet. It's scary close to identical since everyone started quoting of. 8. I plan to hammerjack some kids and deamons next week in fact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2808177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 You gunna steal those Kids lunch money too Nrth??!! :lol: End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233244-initiative-with-arjac-and-jaws/page/2/#findComment-2809419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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