Sangneur Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi there,In this week’s newsletter we have for you a fantastic new Space Marine Dreadnought – the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought – along with the hotly-anticipated Carcharodons Transfer Sheet. Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought A true relic of the hallowed days of the Great Crusade, and of the heights of technological achievement once reached by the Imperium of Mankind, the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought was a mainstay of the armoured might of the Astartes Legions of old. Larger and stronger than standard pattern Dreadnoughts, the Contemptor’s systems featured many examples of techno-arcana steeped in the sacred mysteries of the Legio Cybernetica. Due to their spearhead assault role in the epic battles of the Great Crusade, losses were high amongst these potent war machines, and in the shadowed aftermath of the Heresy the ability to produce or maintain the Contemptor was all but lost. However, some Chapters still boast these war-relics amongst their ranks, and whenever the Contemptor takes to the field of battle it is an echo of the power of ancient days. The Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought, designed by Will Hayes, is a detailed full resin kit that allows any Space Marine (or Chaos Space Marine) army to field one of these ancient war machines. Will has also designed two unique weapon options: a Contemptor Pattern Lascannon Arm and a Contemptor Pattern Close Combat Arm (Fist). These two weapons can be used on either side of the Dreadnought body, which is itself a fully poseable miniature. Experimental rules for this storied and ancient Dreadnought are available to download now from the Forge World website, and this kit and its weapon arms are available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing 25th July. Carcharodons Transfer Sheet Packed with well over 500 individual transfers, the Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is a hotly-anticipated addition to Forge World’s range of A4 transfer sheets. Kenton Mills has crammed onto it Chapter badges sized for both infantry and vehicles, heraldic blazons, Void Maw devices and a wide range of different sigils and devices that denote an individual Carcharodon warrior’s record of carnage across the stars, albeit in a manner that ensures his deeds may only be read by another Astartes of this ill-famed and sinister Chapter. The Carcharodons Transfer Sheet is available to order now for immediate despatch. Forge World Events News Last weekend Forge World, accompanied by Imperial Armour writer Alan Bligh, joined the Warhammer World Events team for their Badab War Part 1 Campaign Weekend. The event was based on our popular Imperial Armour expansion books, and what a weekend it was! We’d like to thank everyone who stopped at the stand to say hi, ask questions or get their copies of the Badab War signed. Everyone attending had a great time and you will be able to see more of what went on, including some very impressive conversions and painted armies, in a review coming soon. If you missed out the Events team are keen to run Part 2 next year. Forge World’s intrepid sales team are now in sunny Madrid for Games Day Spain which takes place on July 3rd at the Pabellon de Convenciones at Casa del Campo, with a massive selection of the Forge World and Warhammer Forge range of resin kits, books and modelling products. You can download a catalogue from the Forge World website here. We look forward to seeing you there! Thanks, Ead Brown Customer Service Manager Forge World -Warseer's iFelix This is a general piece of news but I feel it has a special relevance to our forum. It says in the lower right corner that the rules are applicable to the chaos version, that we may use it (hooray, no insane dreadnaughts and we get a psuedo Venerable!) and that we may use those rules until chaos ones are published in a forthcoming book. As to whether such a forthcoming book is a Forgeworld book is debatable, as a version in the next chaos codex is totally foreseeable. Discuss the chaos relevant issues here, please, I'm certain there will be another thread for the general discussion of this monstrosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Experimental rules for it here. Official Forgeworld pictures of it here. I'm not sure I like it. All the smooth surfaces kinda bugs me... and the shaping of it reminds me of a steamjack. Nothing a few skulls, tusks, and 8 pointed stars can't fix, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangneur Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Frankly I'm quite excited to see the chaos version if they ever make one. The design as seen a lot of criticism already, citing the curviness isn't space marine-like enough, but I do think it fits quite well, giving contrast of the mad designs of the 41st millennium. It's sort of like a wraith-lord, I can picture it marching through a battle zone, leading it's brothers in the fray or walking behind them, keeping a close eye to ensure they're safe. I actually hope that the Chaos version isn't just skulls, spikes and horns galore, but rather a throwback to the older chaos aesthetic. The aesthetic that isn't evil/Mordor, like we have now, but twisted madness. Raptors, Daemons and old possessed for example: when I look at them I don't go "ooo, scary!" or think they look evil, they look blasted and maddening. Chaos should hurt to look at, and hurt to try and reason with. P.S: Thanks for the links, I should have put them up. >< Derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddraconis Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 The rules are pretty cool and the non-bezerking effect is a plus however, to me, it looks like nothing more then a SM version of a crisis suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Reminds me of this pic from Dan Scott: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b159/Zeonfiend/Dreadnought2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 This is what it reminds me of. Added a FW pic for reference. http://warpshack.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bild0285.jpg?w=500&h=375 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Images/Product/AlternativeFW/xlarge/contemptor12.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnosaur93 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 actually... those two dont look alike at all, yes, they are both clunky red robots. but thats like saying, a chainsword is a ripoff of a chainsaw... the similarities they share are so general that its impossible for them not to be alike considering that they... well... ARE big red clunky robots... also. i do not get why people are so worked up about the look of it. afterall, the design of the PH dreads are quite old by now, its not like anything changed. we just finally got a really nice model for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rBUxzH7uIgk/TQfJ1NckhvI/AAAAAAAAAA8/kXBTV9_QMNg/s1600/furioso.jpg And this is a clunky red robot, but it looks nothing like the other two, whereas the Contemptor and the Warjack have a lot in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 also. i do not get why people are so worked up about the look of it. afterall, the design of the PH dreads are quite old by now, its not like anything changed. we just finally got a really nice model for it I'm not worked up about it at all, except for the likelihood that I'll never get to field it in a tournament. Doesn't mean I'm not getting one. . .or three. ^_^ I rather enjoy the notion of a Dreadnought that can look a Dreadknight pilot in the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Or, it looks like the old Rogue Trader era Dreadnoughts... Which ones came first, the Warmachine stuff, or the old dreadnoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'm not sure I like it. All the smooth surfaces kinda bugs me... and the shaping of it reminds me of a steamjack. No kidding. Maybe Privateer Press should send a cease and desist. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I love this thing so much. My Word Bearers will have one. No, three! Okay, probably just one. Still. So fun! No kidding. Maybe Privateer Press should send a cease and desist. Lol. Well, really - I love Privateer to death and all, but their original warjack designs owed a lot to the Adeptus Titanicus versions of Imperial Titans. Unsurprising, since the original 'Jacks were sculpted by Mike McVey. They've moved on since, and definitely have an aesthetic that's all their own anymore, but if there's an echo of design here, it's not because GW's ripping off PP's visuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narse Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 That new dread reminds me of the old one... Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I think the problem is it doesn't look intimidating.. but like a friendly robot. Its not too bad though. Also making it taller doesn't help on the table top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnosaur93 Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'm not worked up about it at all, except for the likelihood that I'll never get to field it in a tournament. Doesn't mean I'm not getting one. . .or three. devil.gif I rather enjoy the notion of a Dreadnought that can look a Dreadknight pilot in the eye. didnt refer to you specificly, its just that i see alot of people responding badly to the design... wich i honestly think is odd, since as mentioned above, this style of dread was designed so really long ago...so just puzzles me people are only having problems with it now where it have gotten an awesome model i would love to see forgeworld do the other 2 style dreadnaughts, the one linked above, and the old plastic robocop-looking one (theres no way that one is not a ripoff though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Something Wycked Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Or, it looks like the old Rogue Trader era Dreadnoughts... Which ones came first, the Warmachine stuff, or the old dreadnoughts? The old Dreads, of course, came first... But I don't like their styling, either :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Frak this model (as much as I like the Heresy-era stylings), I'm getting any old 2nd hand Dreads off eBay, and converting up the suckers to be a 'counts-as' Contemptor. Because, for the first time in years, we Chaos players can use a Dreanought that is not almost entirely ruined by it's rules; and not only that, we can use a dreadnought that can FLEET and has an invulnerable save, for the love of crumb cake! How cool is that! :D :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarius Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I have a feeling that a Nurgle Contempter will arrive sometime in the future...I <3 FW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Hand Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I kinda like it. I mean, it's unusual, but I like it. The curves just make it look like it's based on the aesthetic of power armour, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'm a huge fan of the new FW model, as I was quite a fan of the Horus Heresy Collected Visions artwork, plus I really love the fact that the kit seems very posable. Having a Dread that doesn't freak out mid-game is awesome too, lol. I am a touch terrified now though. I just stopped by the Grey Knights' Thread on this dread, and there are already people talking about using it as a 'counts-as' Dreadknight! Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of 'counts-as' stuff; but c'mon, seriously? That's a bit irritating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I am a touch terrified now though. I just stopped by the Grey Knights' Thread on this dread, and there are already people talking about using it as a 'counts-as' Dreadknight! Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of 'counts-as' stuff; but c'mon, seriously? That's a bit irritating... Were I pathetic enough to field Grey Knights, and given what the studio urped up for the Dreadknight, I'd be tempted to counts-as it, too. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 *snort* Yeah, good point. :) Nontheless, I'm not gonna be a happy camper after I buy one of these, paint it up, take it to it's first game, and some GK player is across from me using the same guy going 'Yeah, here's my Dreadknight.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Grius Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I guess it's a good thing I just built this. http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu149/BrotherGrius/Chaos%20Army/2011-07-02214750.jpg I love having extra bits lying around. I love even more when rules come out that are perfect for one of my conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Because, for the first time in years, we Chaos players can use a Dreanought that is not almost entirely ruined by it's rules; and not only that, we can use a dreadnought that can FLEET and has an invulnerable save, for the love of crumb cake! How cool is that! ;) :P But is fleet really worth it? It's a lot of points for just 4 attacks on the charge if you run him into CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 would you rather run a hth dread that is A crazy B has lower fron armor. C moves slower ? am not saying it is good because at 200pts+ it is not , but at least it does what you want it to do , unlike the chaos dreads[which people who run them take two anyway , which technicly is 200pts too]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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