Zynk Kaladin Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Greetings wolf-brothers. I have finally started nailing down my chapter's fluff and I was wondering if this idea sounds good. Basically, long ago made a Night Angels chapter master and the Great Wolf at the time made an oath of friendship that had both chapters every century trade a squad of marines and wolves to fight with the other chapter for a decade. The idea was to have each squad learn from and fight with the other chapter to return to their brothers with a broad fighting experience. Kind of like a "foreign exchange student program" for Space Marines. One reason I did this is to start collecting some wolves so I can use them along side my Angels in friendly battles. Who wouldn't want to fight along side the mighty sons of Russ!? Is this a plausible/cool idea? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Sounds like Deathwatch light. I guess I could see it working.... I think youll need a more compelling reason than an oath of friendship- give it more depth. It doesnt even have to be battle oriented. Are the Night Angels from our neck of the universe? are they 4rth founding or later? We could easily have a training regimen set up with you, as older brothers to younger brothers as it were. *shrugs* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Sounds like Deathwatch light. I guess I could see it working.... I think youll need a more compelling reason than an oath of friendship- give it more depth. It doesnt even have to be battle oriented. Are the Night Angels from our neck of the universe? are they 4rth founding or later? We could easily have a training regimen set up with you, as older brothers to younger brothers as it were. *shrugs* Yes, I have to come up with a good reason to make it more plausible. I'll be thinking of ideas and I'll post what I come up with. Yup, good ol' Segmentum Obscurus due left of the Fenris. The Night Angels are a 4th founding chapter M32, but by then they were called the Royal Knights. They officially became the Night Angels at around M34 and were severely understrength at the time. It might be worth it to have the Wolves save our dark blue butts <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 how about a campaign fighting force? it wouldn't need any other fluff and you could simply represent 2 different armies fighting as allies for the same goal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Let's face it, we don't hate every marine chapter with "Angel" in their title. :) Just those pesky Blood Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just those pesky Blood Angels. Don't you mean Dark Angels? ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just those pesky Blood Angels. Don't you mean Dark Angels? :o This. I play Blood Angels. They're our brothers in close-combat oriented face-munching. We rule the ground, they rule the sky. Together we are unstoppable! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loathir's Own Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The only issue I see with allying with BA is the fact that we hate loss of life needlessly and on several occasions we have had open altercations with forces that kill our own for the greater Imperium. I herd a story, IDK if it was cannon or not but the Flesh Tearers and us got into a scuff over their violent taking of a world. I also heard something about having an argument with BA about destroying to many of the astray humans during a landing and how grimnar himself called out dante. Then again we went and destroyed prospero with out so much as a question to who was giving the order. lol At my LGS most people wouldn't let you use certain combos due to it being friendly games and all (Logan, 4 wolf guard with a Sanguinary Priest for instance) but if you wanted to use a storm raven with assault marines inside with a sang priest most of use would be OK with it. The Wolf Lords seem to keep their own company as far as advisers and allies, in my opinion only answering to Grimnar when the need is great. I could see a wolf lord seeing that a BA sub chapter is not as heathen as the Flesh Tearers would be a good choice as an ally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 The only issue I see with allying with BA is the fact that we hate loss of life needlessly and on several occasions we have had open altercations with forces that kill our own for the greater Imperium. I herd a story, IDK if it was cannon or not but the Flesh Tearers and us got into a scuff over their violent taking of a world. I also heard something about having an argument with BA about destroying to many of the astray humans during a landing and how grimnar himself called out dante. Then you'll be happy to know my Night Angels also do not like to take the lives of loyal servants of the Emperor needlessly. One of our biggest weaknesses is we sometimes take protecting people too far and have failed our overall objectives on some occasions. I have a better explanation in my WIP IA (link in my sig if you're interested, wolves mentioned in "Beliefs"). We also share similar codes of honor, which is one reason why we get along with the Wolves so well despite us Angels being a bit stingy. Arrogance due to nobility and all. It does make for interesting, playful brawls, though... lowborn dogs... :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 The idea is fine, but not with a first founding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 The idea is fine, but not with a first founding. Yea, I can see where I'm getting too greedy fluff-wise with a first founding chapter. It might just be better for me just to stick with we're good allies, we drink, we fight, and we make our ancestors proud. Nothing more, nothing less. Actually, I think I might stick to this idea rather than the exchange program. The simpler the fluff, the better --- and less for me to write and explain. I appreciate the input, guys. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutzot Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just those pesky Blood Angels. Don't you mean Dark Angels? :P This. I play Blood Angels. They're our brothers in close-combat oriented face-munching. We rule the ground, they rule the sky. Together we are unstoppable! :D Blood angels fly. Russ never intended us to fly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuro Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 I don't see a problem with it. I imagine most chapters build up a bunch of rituals and obligations over 10,000 years, and it's a little bit like the wolf blade anyway. Maybe this exchange is to commemorate a momentous shared victory or somesuch rather than simple cultural exchange. As long as nothing would happen to sever the bond - suspicious flesh tearers behaviour for example, I say go for it. Tsuro Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journeyman Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hmmm, if the glorious Crimson Fists can develop a bond with the mighty Templers (yeah I realise they have a common geneseed) then probably others can have a similar situation? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godspear Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Why not with a First Founding chapter? Most later foundings follow the codex astartes, laid down by the Primarch of the Ultramarines, regardless of whatever Primarchs they venerate, and in actual military operations, allied forces train together all the time. When I was in the service, I deployed or trained with Japanese, Singaporeans, Australians, Brits, and Canadians. It's called going TAD (Temporarily Assigned Duty), and especially with fleet based chapters, I really can't see how making friends along the slow road through space would ever be construed as a bad idea. Founding shouldn't really matter. You could write it into your fluff that two of four reservist companies simply deploy squads to zones as support to other chapters, and stay with them until the job is done. I don't know, I don't see anything wrong with the idea. I wouldn't single out SW personally. Sure, have some go to the SW to fight, but make the notion that your marines go out and fight alongside brother chapters more of a broad philosophical pursuit, rather than a strict alliance. A few to the Death Spectres, a few to the Fire Hawks ("Join the Night Angels they said... see the galaxy they said. Now, here I am, lost in the warp with a bunch of freakin' lepers. Wonderful." :lol: ), spread it around a little to keep people guessing. Or you could have them deploy only with chapters that refuse to follow the Codex, so as to learn the nuances of other types of combat, since they'd be a codex chapter (unless of course it's counts as or subsequent founding of one of the other four). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Just those pesky Blood Angels. Don't you mean Dark Angels? :) No no, Dark Angels are harmless. They just sit around in musty robes brooding over their past misdeeds (which of course we know nothing about, nudge nudge wink wink). Blood Angels want to steal our title of the manliest Space Marines with their fancy doo-hickeys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 ...In the vast reaches of the deepest darkest corners of the galaxy where the emperor's illumination barely shines, there lurks evil and menacing entities who thirst and hunger for the souls of the living. Upon one such world, a force of Space marines confront something more sinister and malevolent than the light of their bolters can extinguish and quickly find themselves hastily recovering their steps back to their dropships. Under orders of general retreat due to planet wide exterminatus, a squad of Night Angels defy orders returning to the planet where a contingent of Space Wolves has had their escape severed and are unable to be extracted. The Night Angels land amid burning promethium tanks, acrid smoke and raging gunfire to find only a squad of Space Wolves left alive, the rest torn asunder by unspeakable terror. Without regard for themselves or hesitation, the Night Angels decend upon the melee chainsword roaring, bolters flashing and quickly turn one fleeting moment in their favor selling their lives dearly to successfully extricate the few surviving Space Wolves and wounded into their dropship. As the roar of their engines carries them beyond this cursed planet's grasp, the hull vibrates and shakes as the bombs fall, twisting the surface into unrecognizable coiling plumes of smoke filled ash and turning the atmosphere into a fireball of righteous flame and purgation. The Space Wolves in gratitude of the Night Angels sacrifice of their brethren for those of another chapter pledge an Oath of Friendship and a squad of Space Wolves whenever and wherever the Night Angles find themselves in need and forevermore the enemies of the Emperor are now weaker and wince when the banners of the Space Woves and Night Angels fly together over the same sky. ... or something like that. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 ...In the vast reaches of the deepest darkest corners of the galaxy where the emperor's illumination barely shines, there lurks evil and menacing entities who thirst and hunger for the souls of the living. Upon one such world, a force of Space marines confront something more sinister and malevolent than the light of their bolters can extinguish and quickly find themselves hastily recovering their steps back to their dropships. Under orders of general retreat due to planet wide exterminatus, a squad of Night Angels defy orders returning to the planet where a contingent of Space Wolves has had their escape severed and are unable to be extracted. The Night Angels land amid burning promethium tanks, acrid smoke and raging gunfire to find only a squad of Space Wolves left alive, the rest torn asunder by unspeakable terror. Without regard for themselves or hesitation, the Night Angels decend upon the melee chainsword roaring, bolters flashing and quickly turn one fleeting moment in their favor selling their lives dearly to successfully extricate the few surviving Space Wolves and wounded into their dropship. As the roar of their engines carries them beyond this cursed planet's grasp, the hull vibrates and shakes as the bombs fall, twisting the surface into unrecognizable coiling plumes of smoke filled ash and turning the atmosphere into a fireball of righteous flame and purgation. The Space Wolves in gratitude of the Night Angels sacrifice of their brethren for those of another chapter pledge an Oath of Friendship and a squad of Space Wolves whenever and wherever the Night Angles find themselves in need and forevermore the enemies of the Emperor are now weaker and wince when the banners of the Space Woves and Night Angels fly together over the same sky. ... or something like that. :lol: You're hired! May I... uh... "borrow" this for future use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Sure, man. I wrote it for you. Just name one your Space Wolves after me. Try not to get him killed... :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2808993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Sure, man. I wrote it for you. Just name one your Space Wolves after me. Try not to get him killed... ;) Will do. If I ever get a working camera I'll send you a picture :lol: Hmm... now to start a small wolves army... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2809019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arez Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Sure, man. I wrote it for you. Just name one your Space Wolves after me. Try not to get him killed... ;) Will do. If I ever get a working camera I'll send you a picture :P Hmm... now to start a small wolves army... you should get a battle force :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2809029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 Yeah a battle force or just a box of Grey Hunters at a time. Either way your ideas are just what Apoc is made for. Collecting a squad or two of whatever you want and playing with them together. Just because its apoc doesn't mean you need to play an army of 15k. its really designed for anything over 3k. perfect for a small brawl using your allied forces. Thats the idea behind my IG army (I had to do something with my venerable exterminator) I have them painted (or started) in city fighting colors; black armor and shadow grey cloth with black and white camo 'stripes'. They form my house belesarius PDF to help with the ranged guns while the wolves kill up close. Go nuts and have fun. I welcome this honorable exchange with comrades in arms. Bring ale and your always welcome :) G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233315-wolf-angel-exchange-program/#findComment-2809182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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