Tro_lee boy Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I have a fully painted sanguinary guardsman who's sword blade has broken off. I can't seem to fix it and so thought just to change it to a powerfist. My unit already has a banner and an infurnus pistol in it. It is in fact the standard bearer who has the sword in question So my question is do i keep trying to fix the blade or do i change for a fist. If i change for a fist how would you recommend getting the arm and shoulder pad off. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I have a fully painted sanguinary guardsman who's sword blade has broken off. I can't seem to fix it and so thought just to change it to a powerfist. My unit already has a banner and an infurnus pistol in it. It is in fact the standard bearer who has the sword in question So my question is do i keep trying to fix the blade or do i change for a fist. If i change for a fist how would you recommend getting the arm and shoulder pad off. Thanks in advance. Did you use super glue or plastic cement? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tro_lee boy Posted July 3, 2011 Author Share Posted July 3, 2011 I used plastic glue on those models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I used plastic glue on those models Fixing the blade can be very frustrating, I'd just put a fist there instead since it's useful to have anyway. The shoulderpad shouldn't be stuck to more than the arm unless you've been very generous with the glue. Try to weaken the bond between the body and the arm by driving in the tip of your hobby knife or drill using the smallest drill bit you have. Once you've weakened the weld you should be able to pry the arm off with just a little bit of force. Don't worry too much about getting the contact surfaces uneven or damaged, they are out of sight and can be easily evened out by using greenstuff. If you don't have any sort of modelling putty you can ghetto-fix it with thin sprue shavings that wil melt nicely once they come into contact with the glue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 If the sword's broken I doubt you would want to use the arm. I would just snap it off, most of the time it snaps at the shoulder where it has been glued just fine. But if you break the arm will you be upset? After all, the sword is broken. Getting the shoulder pad off is a different story altogether. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 If the sword's broken I doubt you would want to use the arm. I would just snap it off, most of the time it snaps at the shoulder where it has been glued just fine. But if you break the arm will you be upset? After all, the sword is broken. Getting the shoulder pad off is a different story altogether. I'd be careful just trying to snap the arm off because if you did use a lot of plastic glue there's the chance you might end up damaging the mini, not just the arm. If you decide to remove the arm you're better off just carefully slipping your hobby knife into the seam on the arm and slicing it apart. After the arm is off you should hopefully have an easier time removing the shoulder pad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezabel Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hmmm, this happened to one of my SG. I eBagged a replacement. then to get free shipping bought a load of extra bits.....of course, more that the shipping would have cost ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 If the sword's broken I doubt you would want to use the arm. I would just snap it off, most of the time it snaps at the shoulder where it has been glued just fine. But if you break the arm will you be upset? After all, the sword is broken. Getting the shoulder pad off is a different story altogether. I'd be careful just trying to snap the arm off because if you did use a lot of plastic glue there's the chance you might end up damaging the mini, not just the arm. If you decide to remove the arm you're better off just carefully slipping your hobby knife into the seam on the arm and slicing it apart. After the arm is off you should hopefully have an easier time removing the shoulder pad. Well that's a fair point. Just speaking of my own experiences I only put a little drop of glue. I don't how many times my 5 man ras has changed weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 If the sword's broken I doubt you would want to use the arm. I would just snap it off, most of the time it snaps at the shoulder where it has been glued just fine. But if you break the arm will you be upset? After all, the sword is broken. Getting the shoulder pad off is a different story altogether. I'd be careful just trying to snap the arm off because if you did use a lot of plastic glue there's the chance you might end up damaging the mini, not just the arm. If you decide to remove the arm you're better off just carefully slipping your hobby knife into the seam on the arm and slicing it apart. After the arm is off you should hopefully have an easier time removing the shoulder pad. Well that's a fair point. Just speaking of my own experiences I only put a little drop of glue. I don't how many times my 5 man ras has changed weapons. Most of my army is secondhand, and not every one of the previous owners was as frugal with the plastic glue as you or I. I've learned at my own expense that sometimes plastic glue bonds stronger than the rest of a mini. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yellow Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Plastic glue actually melts the two halves of the plastic togther so it doesn't bond it quite in the same way tha super glue does. I use super in all my building as you can fairly easily snap anything off. I know from experience that pinning the SG swords are a bugger if you can't re-attach the blade then get a new arm from a bits store and you can either remove the entire limb and replace. OR cut the limb on the mini at the elbow or wrist (I know one of the sword hilts covers the hand) cut the new one at the same place and then glue. If you do this then it is worth spraying the new bit first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 It would depend on the arm you used, but you can always cut the hand off that is holding the sword and attach a new one. You'll find tons of bitz on eBay and can probably get he arm you need for a couple bucks. You wouldn't even need to pin it. I cut off a lot of hands and such when I do conversions. Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptphoenixck Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 It would depend on the arm you used, but you can always cut the hand off that is holding the sword and attach a new one. You'll find tons of bitz on eBay and can probably get he arm you need for a couple bucks. You wouldn't even need to pin it. I cut off a lot of hands and such when I do conversions. Good luck! I'd almost do this though to save painting time etc, I would remove the blade cut a new one out of plasticard and stick it on.... That way it involves a lot less work and you wont have to touch the paint job up as much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2809965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Powers Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Here's a thought... What if instead of removing the sword, you repair it by modeling it as a sword stuck through an enemy head? Glue a head on the end of the sword, and glue the broken piece on the head? Paint appropriately, maybe a little green stuff? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233373-sanguinary-guard/#findComment-2810051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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