Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hey guys. I just won a Blood Angels army in an auction at my LGS during a party for their birthday. I just wanted some feedback from you guys about what I've ended up with. I kind of plan to take the bits I want to use and then probably sell on the rest. I don't have a camera handy, so I can't provide pictures. Hopefully saying that it's a collection of store models will give you an idea of the level of painting - the rank and file troops are pretty quickly done, flat colours, no highlighting but reasonable neatness. The sergeants are a bit better - more layering of colours and some highlights. Better attention to detail. The special/elite/interesting models (Death Company and Sanguinary Guard, for example) are a step up again. Detailed power weapons, colour blending, highlights, etc. The single characters (The Sanguinor, unique collectors' edition models, vehicles and Dreadnoughts) are done a bit more carefully again. I appreciate the description isn't too helpful. I'll try to get pictures up in the next few days. So, here's what I have: 5 ten-man Tactical Squads with missile launcher and flamer, with plasma pistols on the Sergeants 3 ten-man Tactical Squads with missile launcher and flamer, with no upgrades on the Sergeants 1 ten-man Tactical Squad with multi-melta and melta gun, with no upgrades on the Sergeant 1 5-man Devastator Squad with four heavy bolters, with melta gun and power fist on the Sergeant 1 5-man Devastator Squad with four lascannons, with plasma pistol and power fist on the Sergeant 1 5-man Devastator Squad with three heavy bolters and a missile launcher, with plasma pistol and power fist on the Sergeant 1 5-man Devastator Squad with three lascannons and a missile launcher, with no upgrades on the Sergeant 1 5-man Death Company Squad all with jump packs, with one thunderhammer, one power fist and infernus pistol, one power sword and infernus pistol, one plasma pistol and chainsword, one bolt pistol and chainsword 1 5-man Sanguinary Guard Squad with detailed banner upgrade, two power sword and angelus boltgun, one power fist and infernus pistol, one power sword and infernus pistol, one power axe, angelus boltgun and banner upgrade 2 Chaplains with no jump packs, one bolt pistol and crozius arcanum, one power fist and crozius arcanum 1 collectors edition jump pack model with power sword and infernus pistol 1 Captain in power armour with power sword and storm shield 1 Apothecary with exsanguinator and bolt pistol 1 The Sanguinor 1 Baal Predator with flamestorm cannon and heavy flamer sponsons 1 Librarian Dreadnought with close-combat weapon and force sword 1 Stormraven with twin-linked lascannons and twin-linked multi-melta 4 Tactial Space Marines with meltaguns So, here's my question: how much of this do you think is worth keeping and how much is worth selling on? How much would you be willing to pay for the whole lot? I'm curious to know whether I paid far too much. Answers appreciated. Please help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 KEEP IT ALL AND YOU WILL HAVE AN AWESOME ARMY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 KEEP IT ALL AND YOU WILL HAVE AN AWESOME ARMY!!! Haha! Yeah, I could keep it, I suppose. There's a ton of stuff I'd never use, though. I don't think I can possibly imagine a time when I'd want to field nine Tactical Squads - especially playing Blood Angels. Maybe one or two of the Devastator Squads could be useful supporting my jump infantry, but I recently started collecting Space Wolves and I suspect I'll strip most of the Devastators - and probably the Tacticals, too - and redo them as Space Wolves. Problem with keeping everything is just that I tend to focus on jump infantry with my Blood Angels. Obviously the Sanguinary Guard and the Stormraven can fit into that if I want, but the other stuff, not so much. The Death Company isn't actually a legal unit, because it has an infernus pistol, a hand flamer and a plasma pistol in a five-man squad, where you can only have one pistol per five. So there's some conversion needed to make them playable. If you were to include something like three or four ten-man Assault Marine Squads, a jump-pack Plasma Guard, jump-pack Librarian and a jump-pack Sanguinary Priest, you have an idea of the models I have available. How would you build, say a rough 2,000 point list out of those models? Any ideas? I find it difficult to know where to start. There are so many models and units I can't even work out what I want, never mind what I need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenExxes Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 You won it in an auction? Bids are usually made at an auction. How much did you bid? It's a pretty good swag. I would keep it all just to display an awesome army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 You won it in an auction?Bids are usually made at an auction. How much did you bid? It's a pretty good swag. I would keep it all just to display an awesome army. I got it for £150. I figure at rock-bottom, absolute minimum prices the Tactical Squads are worth £50, Devastators are worth £20, Death Company are worth £10, Sanguinary Guard are worth £20, individual models are worth £40, the Stormraven is worth £20, the Baal Predator is worth £15 and the Dreadnought is worth £15. So I think if I listed everything on eBay and had AWFUL luck with bids, I'd probably make a minimum of £40 on the models. Realistically I'd expect the whole lot to go for more than £300. I think I'll have to strip off the paint from everything and gradually repaint it myself. I'm not keen on playing with an army someone else painted. It feels like completing a computer game using cheat codes, if that makes sense. Until I paint the models myself, I'll always be playing with the store's army. I'll probably try to use the models I got as the basis for a 2,000 point army, see what's left that I can use effectively with my Space Wolves and then sell the remainder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 So what does that work out to in US Dollars these days? Actually if you didnt want all of the pieces you could sell the ones you dont want and get a pretty good stockpile of funds for future purchase of the ones you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 So what does that work out to in US Dollars these days? Actually if you didnt want all of the pieces you could sell the ones you dont want and get a pretty good stockpile of funds for future purchase of the ones you do. My last conversion to USD - maybe five weeks ago - was almost exactly £1.00 = $1.50, so I bought the army for $225 and I think that at an absolute minimum it would sell for $275 but would likely make around $450. Yeah, splitting the army up is pretty much my plan. There are things I can't work with: the Sanguinor model is metal (as are maybe three or four others) and I refuse to use metal models in my army, because I have pretty clear memories of how awful they are to work with. So what I guess I'm asking is which of the models would be best kept to form the spine of a 2,000 point army, which would do nicely converted into Space Wolves and which should be sold on to a good home? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Sounds to me that you would sell just about all of it seeing as you are more drawn to the plethora of jump packs BAs have access too. BUT, if you want an army based off what you have... Captain 135 (attach to tactical a) SS and PW Collectors Edition count as Dante 225 (Attach to Sang Guard) Infernus Pistol and PW Sang Guard 260 PF, 4x PW, 2x Infernus Pistol ,3x Angelus Boltgun, Chapter Banner Furioso Librarian 175 Wings and Fear Of Darkness/Shield of Sanguinius Sanguinary Priest 50 (Attach to tactical a) Tactical Squad A 215 (in Stormraven) Melta, Multi-melta, PF+Plasma Pistol on Sgt Tactical Squad B 270 Melta, Missile Launcher, PF+Plasma Pistol on Sgt Razorback with TL Heavy Flamer and Extra Armor Tactical Squad C 175 Melta and Missile Launcher Devastator A 130 4x Missile Launcher Devastator B 130 4x Heavy Bolter Stormraven 215 TL Multi-melta, TL Lascannon, and Extra armor 1995 pts, I think I added right. Ok, this list has a lot of holes in it. However, I am working with what you bought and my disclaimer should at the very least say, "No Guarantees". Good luck :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 So what I guess I'm asking is which of the models would be best kept to form the spine of a 2,000 point army, which would do nicely converted into Space Wolves and which should be sold on to a good home? Space Wolves are a very versatile army, they can play both ranged and close combat. However, ranged SW tend to be more popular due to their cheap 5 man heavy weapon teams known as Long Fangs (LF). They are great because they are Ld 9, can take 5 heavy weapons (compared to 4 that all other marine armies can take, and at about the same price. i.e. 6 man LF with 5 ML cost 140, vs 5 man Devs with 4 ML cost 130), and while the Pack Leader is still alive they can split their fire making them unlimitedly versatile. Point being, keep the Devs, the missile launchers in the Tac squads too. In SW, missile launchers are your best friend. Their core troop unit, Grey Hunter (arguably the most versatile troop choice in the game), come standard with bolters, bolt pistols, and close combat weapons. A simple head or shoulder pad swap will make your Tac squads Grey Hunters in no time. So keep your Tac squads as well. Also, with the SW box set, meltaguns are nonexistent, so hold on to those or you will regret getting rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Painted armies tend to sell very well on eBay so I actually think you'd make considerably more than you estimate if you were to sell them. I'd probably keep the DC, SG, Stormraven and Baal for your Blood Angels, sell the rest and use the money to buy Space Wolves, if that's what you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks for the replies, brothers. You've given me plenty to think on! I'll spend today working on army lists that can use at least some of the models and see where I end up with it. Morollan, do you have experience of selling armies on eBay? Would I be better off selling the models in individual units, or should I just list everything that I'm selling in one big lump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I've not sold any myself but I've often seen them whilst looking for auctions and they seem to attract a lot of bids. A necron army was on there the other week for over £1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 I've not sold any myself but I've often seen them whilst looking for auctions and they seem to attract a lot of bids. A necron army was on there the other week for over £1000 Interesting. I may use around half of these models as Space Wolves, but I'm tempted to keep a hold of a bunch of the others for painting practise. What I can hopefully do is strip them down, use them for painting practise until I'm at a level where I can list them on eBay for a reasonable amount. I can probably turn them into a genuine army, too. After I take out the models I want to use, how about something like this hitting eBay?: One Captain: jump-pack, force sword and hand flamer One Sanguinary Priest: bolt pistol and exsanguinator One Chaplain: jump pack, power fist and crozius arcanum Three ten-man Tactical Squads: one with multi-melta and melta gun, two with missile launcher and flamer, all with chainswords/bolt pistols and back-banners on the Sergeants One ten-man Devastator Squad: four lascannons and bolt pistol/chainsword Sergeant One ten-man Assault Squad: two meltaguns and power fist/bolt pistol Sergeant One five-man Death Company: jump packs, thunderhammer, chainsword/bolt pistol, power sword/bolt pistol, power sword/infernus pistol, chainsword/bolt pistol Baal Predator: flamestorm cannon and heavy flamer sponsons Furioso Librarian: close-combat weapon and force weapon That's almost precisely 2,000 points. If I play with the units, dropping extra weaponry here and there, I can make that exactly 2,000 points. I can practise my painting on the extra Tactical Squad Space Marines I have and then list this as a 2,000-point army, and list The Sanguinor and the nicer of the two Chaplain models seperately. What would you think about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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