fivepointedstar Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) Chapter Name: Blood Dragons Founding: 4thChapter World/Deployment: BelenusFortress Monastery: Castle HerensugeGene-seed (Predecessor): Blood AngelsKnown Descendants: None Forged from the ashes of a lost world the Blood Dragons prevail with but one goal... Destroy all that invadestheir sector. Lead by their bloodlust they are the destroyers leaving nothingbut ash in their wake. Origins Blood Dragon initiate The Blood Dragons proud historystarts when the 8th companies from their gene source the Blood Angels chapterwere given orders to expand themselves in the Dominion of Stars. The high lordsof terra decreed that an Astartes chapter from the Blood Angels be formed tofend off the growing xenos threats. Brahm, Captain of the 8th company, wasselected to take leadership in this chapters creation. They set out in thestrike cruiser War Song, and upon entering the Dominion of Star sector theinstrument panels on the strike cruiser began to alarm with read outs on anearby planet with very high amount of seismic activity and with very high doseof electrons being emitted. The techmarines insisted on scanning the surfacefor potential resources. Upon entering the orbit of Berien the search confirmedthat nothing was needed from this planet as it was in the process ofgeo-thermal reconfiguration. Epistolary Sicero sensed a cry for help in thenearby moon of Belenus. Entering the orbit of the moon, longrange sensors picked up localized humans, along with large reptilian creaturesengaged in battle. Brahm and Sicero consulted about possibility for a homeworld after deliberation the captain set his company in gear to take this moonas theirs. As ordered they went to battle with their Storm Ravens thundering out,and Drop pods screaming down below. Once planet side the battle brothers were setout to destroy the beasts that swarmed the humans. Brahm, the leader of thewarriors and his retinue of veterans jetted down from a Thunder Hawk at theheart of the main battle with an alpha dragon. A Massive beast with a head aswide as a dreadnought, it breathed huge clouds of fire at the warrior as hetouched down. Brother Corian was unfortunate and was immolated by this attack. Brother-Captain Brahm roared in defiance as the alpha male advanced; using his wits hecoaxed the mighty reptile into a ravine away from the castle -hive. The massive dragon blasted flames profusely at the Captain as he backed thebeast further away. The Captain played the mighty beast, but was discovered byanother dragon coming in to intercept the Captain. His auto sensors picked upthe second smaller flying attacker heading at an angle from the ravine.Mentally triggering his jump pack he flew up the second before the other reptilesmashed into the rocky out cove and plowing boulders upon the unlucky beastsmashing it death. The alpha dragon raged at Brahm hoping to strike a deathblow to the landing warrior. Nearly dodging the heavily clawed talon, BrotherCaptain Brahm rolled out of the way, and instinctively lashed out with hisblade cutting a deep wound on the alpha males forearm. Scoring a hit on a vitalartery it sprayed the visceral fluid of the huge beast. He then launchedforward as the dragon screamed frantically towards him. The Captain combatrolled under the mighty clawed talon of the alpha dragon. He then sprung upwardunderneath the beast drove his power sword into its chest bone piercing threw,and in to the heart. The alpha male screamed out a horrid cry, and it then beganto thrash about in its death, Brahm barely ducked out before getting crushed bythe huge beast. The lesser reptiles broke attack, and fled into the forests,with the warriors of Baal advancing to reinforce their positions. The newchapter master called of the attack and ordered the marines into their landingcrafts. The village was littered with both human and beast remains. Brahmdecreed this planet was worthy of the chapter home planet and took the nameBlood Dragons as there new title. He then chooses their heraldry color in honorof the battle. Their heraldry colors became the black ashen covered bodies withbloody hands, and legs as their armor colors. So the iconic black and redwarriors of Belenus took to war in their sector, and burned their names intothe records of the Adeptus Asartes. Home World Berien Berien Directive a movement found in the epicenter of Ork Waags, and Eldar expansions. War in the Dominion of Stars is a content issue. Belenus is a moon from the planet known as Berien a world once lush with copious fields, now a dead world. Ash flew high as the lush world trembled, and spewed forth massive toxic clouds. The core of Berien shook the continents under its seas, volcanic activity destroying the planet in what are now sulfuric waste lands. The inhabitants of Belenus watched in horror as their parent planet cindered itself to death. To the human inhabitants this was called the season of the blood winds. The solar winds sweep up a reddish color into Belenus' atmosphere causing the air to turn reddish in color. Most Belenians killed themselves in mass suicide thinking that the God- Emperor was punishing them with this eerie omen. The others hid away in their hive-castles seeking solace in what little numbers they had. The ones the survived the mass snuff out began to see the air changing back as the winds filtered the reddish color to the forest floors. This is when the battle of the dragons began. Out in packs they flew high into the sky and reigned fiery terror to the last inhabitants. The fear of the reptiles began pushing the inhabitants further back into their fortresses, and their meager fortified buildings. This lasted a season until the time of the arrival of the red warriors. From the sky a great ship descended and out came red clad warriors who began to battle the dragons. A mighty warrior single handed slew the alpha dragon thus ending the battle. Then the red warriors boarded their air ships and launched back into the sky said to have traveled to cap of Herenruge were they protected Belenus and watched. Written by humble servitor to Aravold II lord baron. The marines of the Blood Dragons arebased on the death world Belenus located in the Dominion of Stars. Their homeworld is covered in mountainous terrain with dense forestry. This site wasperfect as its inhabitants are at a feudal age full of superstition. Therefortress is atop a dormant volcano called Castle Herensuge, which received itsname from the locals thinking all the dragons on Belenus originated from thatancient volcanic mound of rock. The marines created vast underground fortressesunderneath the mountain. And within the dormant cap houses the triple towers ofthe chapter, there lies the headquarters or three houses; the Recluisium, theLibrarium, and the Apothicarion. They act as a pivotal role in the governmentalrunning of the chapter. The humans that inhabit the moon of Belenus exist in apre gun era. Still relying on beasts of burden to help cultivate, and transportfood and goods over a distance. The human population exists in localizedcastle-hives. Each hive exists within a wall to protect itself from the dangersthat lurch in the forests. The humans of these habitats only know of themarines in myth.The forests floors thrive with all sorts of dangerous creatures, and hugelizards similar to prehistoric Terra. The most feared of the reptiles arecalled the blood dragons. They are huge fire breathing lizards reaching twentyfeet in height, and wings spanning twice that size. Their blood red scalesglistens in the shadows like blood flowing down a wall of muscle, and rawcarnage. These lizards are rightly feared having the ability to fly, andproject fire they are the top apex predators. Marines of the chapter hunt downthese creatures in seasonal chapter held gauntlets. Some come back with hides,teeth, and all manner of trophies then there are those that dont return atall. Then there are others that returnwith dragon mounts having broken the giant lizard to his will. Great lizardsroam the lush open plains of Belenus some as big as a giant squiggoths, armedwith think impenetrable plated armor. Creatures called land drakes are swiftrunning predators, lightly red in color and as fast as a full throttled bike. Theseswift reptiles can be trained to allow for a marine rider. In the recruiting process Chaplainspick a stock of hopefuls to join their ranks from human knights, soldiers, andfighters worthy of the gift to be a Space Marine. Found within the ranks of theknightly orders of Belenus come the most ruthless heavy cavalry riders thisside of the galaxy. Its the occasional outbreak of beasts that venture out totorment the villages that these knights ride out to mark their deeds. Inaddition to the barons of the land still pay homage to the dragon warriors ofold and each year the hive-castles send their elite warriors to the"tournament" games.This tournament pits the elite warriors fight against each other in tests ofmight, skill, and a test of mental fortitude. Only the strongest get chosen toaspire to the rank of chapter recruit. Having survived the tournament thehumans are taken to Castle Herenruge. As a Blood Angels successor they to havesome kind of ritual using a grail from the founding gene father the BloodAngels. Sanguinary Priests use this device to transform the human warriors intoone of the Emperors finest killing machines. After the initial months oftransformation the neophyte is tested to the brink to test their strength,endurance, stamina, and mental fortitude to serve the chapter. Gene-seed The Blood Dragons gene seed is from Sanguinius the Primarchof the Blood Angels. The chapter is also affected by the black rage and more-sowhen it comes to the red thirst. The chapters Belchers Gland has mutatedslightly due to the high amount of reptile and dragon meat the marines consume.The fluid in the gland creates a highly flammable liquid. The consumption ofdragon meat has altered the chemical compound of the Belchers Gland toactivate oxygen byproducts, and methane chemicals, to create a nitromethane-like fluid. This glands placement is located similar to a humanslymphoid gland known as a Tonsil. Often this mutated Belchers Gland will swellto exponential size causing a growth in the neck region until the glands fluidhas been expelled. Combat Doctrine The Blood Dragons are very similar to their predecessors in that they favor upfront attacks rather than long range firefights. Because of the upbringing onthe moon they are born into a government under feudalism, and each male member ofthe family must enter the military. Since other territories do not agree witheach other they are constantly battling over old vendettas, land raids, or alord that want to take over another barons territory. As super soldiers of theImperium they have honed that same skill and mastered it, using furiousassaults and a multitude of fire or heat based weaponry to annihilate theirenemies. As a chapter they favor aerial combat, and mounted attacks. They oftenemploy heavy usage of assault marines, and bikers in the initial strikes,followed by aerial insertion strikes, and finally land raider drop assaults.Their urban assault force is superior in aspects of fighting skills mainly the usageof Land Raider Redeemers, and their feared incinerator squads. Because their lovefire based warfare most Imperialist generals dislike the aid of the BloodDragons because the high number of collateral damage. Often the marines equiptheir own helmets with a mandible devises that pierces into the marinesBelchers Gland to siphon fluid into the short range flame projectors. Artificersof the chapter stylize their arms, armor in images of fire, and draconic motifsinto their armor. Brahm Dragonborn Brahm was the eighth company captain of the Blood Angels and founding Chapter Master of the mighty Blood Dragons. He led them into their now found dominion, and he has carved a bloody path to get there. The Blood Dragons chapter master was all but lost when he fell to the black rage during the War of the Two Moons campaign. He raged on slicing and smashing his way until a Farseer of the Eldar lashed out with his eldritch powers and damaged Brahms lower limbs. Screaming out for blood, and thrashing about. The foul xenos witch thought Brahm an easy target, while witch blade held aloof to deliver the final death blow. Brahm's Blood Champion and most trusted Honor Guard Arikan jetting down on his jump pack thrusting out with his mighty scimitar and clove the xenos witch in twain. The other honor guard swooped down to protect their liege until the apothecaries could take him. Arikan lead a full team to assault the Eldars head quarters to strike vengeance upon the aliens for dishonoring their chapter master. Brahm was later interred into ancient dreadnought armor where he fought rightly for many battles. He fought with such fury in war, and it was until death took him in M34. Driven by fire fueled rage he rampaged into a building slaughtering everything in his path. The enemy fired upon the mighty warrior taking out the structure pylons and toppling the building crushing the ancient warrior. The techmarines later recovered their fallen lord bringing him to the hallowed halls of the fallen, and placing him in the center with a sarcophagus with duel shield displaying both his Blood Angel, and Blood Dragon crest, and his multitude of battle awards in both chapters. This tomb is the holiest of places to the chapter. Organisation The Blood Dragons are organized as the standard Codex Astartes permits. Thereare ten companies, the last being the scout formations. There is a Reclusiam,and Librarium, and along with an Apothecarion. Castle Herenruge has threetowers holding these main offices. And they have modeled there organization insimilar image to their founding Primogenitors the Blood Angels.The Reclusium is the spiritual halls of the Sanguine Draco cult. In these hallsare the deeds, and vows of every warrior brother of Belenus. Here the marinescome to meditate in the great temple, and come for solace in-between battles.In the lower level of the tower houses the containment cells for the rageaffected battle brothers. This tower is located above the main loading bay tothe armory, where the vast amount of cranes, and pulleys used to transport themembers of the Death Company to their transport. The current high Chaplain is Zacharias.Zacharias is a very dark man born from a land baron to the southern lands ofBelenus. His demeanor and zeal has landed him to be a much influenced spiritualleader of the Sanguine Draco cult. His tasks are the chapter executioner andHigh Sheriff to those brothers that have succumbed to the black rage. It is hethat is also tasked with the quest to reclaim the heads of those warriors thatmay have forsworn their oaths to the chapter, and the Emperor.In the opposite tower to the Reclusiarch is the Librarium a tower of mystery,and lore. Those that walk these halls are psykers, and are constantly trainingto combat the perils of the warp. Blood Dragon librarians train at using thewarp energies to enhance their martial prowess. Very few travel the path of record keeper;those menial tasks are reserved for penitence and servitor work. The currentChief Librarian is Edarthis Maulic, he is a powerful psyker having mastered thesword and em-blazing his red blade with warp energies to slay in the Emperorsname. He is always hidden under a blackened hood does the chief librarian probehis adversary for a chink in their armor. So often a minor glance would stun an enemy leader, as they are toofearful to enter combat with the master psyker warrior.The current chapter master of the Blood Dragons is Verus Conrad. He was made chapter master after the death of master Harod inthe battle against the Dark Eldar where Harod was fatally killed by enemy warmachine. Harod was recovered by the chapters apothecaries and was entombedinto the hall of the fallen. And the next night a high council of the triadtowers entered in the main chambers, a room that links all three towers to themain citadel tower. Here the Captains and the head masters of the triad towersvote for their next chapter master. It was decided that Conrad master of thefiery blade would be the leader of the Blood Dragons. For it was he that leadthe assault force to reclaim their fallen lord. It was he that dropped in oncrimson wings and slaughtered the dark xenos in their bazaar base camp. Andupon returning Conrad then presented the head of the xenos warrior that leadthe dark Eldar war party. Beliefs The Blood Dragons follow the sanguine draco warrior cult with similar faith astheir parent chapter brought with them, only symbolic to their home world. Theybelieve the Emperor as a king warrior, they do not praise him as a deity.Sanguinius is their Primarch, and so they follow the same blood traditions thatwere passed down to them. Brahm, when he was issued this fledgling chapterbrought with him the traditions, Along wit a sense of excelling at their masterylevels. The Chaplains chant is from the tome of the dragon, a dragon hide bookchronically listing the chapter deeds. Each warrior of the chapteris taught these chants, and so causes them to fight with increased ferocity.The Blood Dragons have also been known to chain themselves to their war gear,and will never give up no matter what the odds are. Battlecry "Fear our Fire!"*Thanks goes to Greyall for drawing Verus Conrad Edited January 18, 2016 by fivepointedstar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaren Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 As a Vampire Counts player, all I can say is... busted :D Meshing Fantasy into 40k is a lot harder than it sounds, despite their many similarities. However, if you toned down the Draculs, the Vlads, and the Sylvanias, I think you have a decent chapter. I understand that Vampires are cool, I'm a fan myself, but in 40k they are much less viable. I think you should focus more on the character of the chapter, and what sets them apart from the other Blood Angel successors. While the idea of dragons is also very cool (again, I'm a fan), it doesn't mesh well with 40k either. As discussed in another thread, Space Marines in full combat gear clock in at around 575kg, which is a LOT of weight. That's over 1200lbs for the us Americans. I doubt your dragons, however strong and fearsome they may be, are going to go flying and running around with half a ton of weight on their back. Also, while having a centralized leader guy is cool, and it is fun to imagine his legendary exploits; overall it is more important that you tell the reader more about the personality and motivations of the chapter as a whole. One guy does not an IA make, and focusing on him before the rest of the chapter will just derail where you want the IA to go. That said, always room for more Blood Dragons, and I look forward to you fleshing these guys out more and showing more of what they are like as a chapter. Color scheme is alright, though Octavulg will surely have something to say about red and black ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyronusSouria Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 P.S if you find any misspellings my current word processor if out of order, and will not allow me to use it so this was all done in note pad. well have at it. Just download OpenOffice. It's free to use and there's a mac and PC version of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I think you mean its a Death World, as Dead Worlds have NO local population or indiginous life. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Thanks for the fast replies. Shinzaren: I'm only in the negative stage writing skills as far as awesomeness goes.. but I'll take the whole 40k/ fantasy mash up no-no into perceptive. And I also agree that one defining character does not make for much foreground to a story like an entire chapter. I'll work on some more to add. Any suggestions on what to do to make it less WH fanasy-ish? Also why no Black and red? PyronusSouris: thanks ill have to use that much appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) I think you mean its a Death World, as Dead Worlds have NO local population or indiginous life. Homeworld: The Blood Dragons are based on the death world Sylvania located at x1759, y789 in the Dominion of Stars near by to the dead world Berien. If your referring from this quote; the dead world Berien is near to in relation to territory. But it is not there home world Sylvia is, and it is a death world. thanks thou Edited July 7, 2011 by DeathKnight2000 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyther Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 An Eastern European-inspired chapter that's not overtly Russian is a good idea. Disassembling and then reassembling Dracula's name, not so much. You could get away with the Vladimir, in my opinion, but the Dracul is a bit much. Same goes for the indigenous life- there can be large animals, and they can be reptilian. They can even be red (maybe it's a sign of maturity during the mating season, or whatever). But fiery breath and wings? Just a touch too far. Most of the article needs to be scaled back just a tad, and you've got a nicely fleshed-out chapter. As for the 27th Founding... I can see there's a reason for the absence of a chapter history. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) I think you mean its a Death World, as Dead Worlds have NO local population or indiginous life. Homeworld: The Blood Dragons are based on the death world Sylvania located at x1759, y789 in the Dominion of Stars near by to the dead world Berien. If your referring from this quote; the dead world Berien is near to in relation to territory. But it is not there home world Sylvia is, and it is a death world. thanks thou Oh ok, sorry, I miss read that. I guess I'll be the odd one out, but I kind of think the Dracul name is ok. Also, there hasn't been a 27th founding yet, the latest was the 26th. Also, some BA successors are known to be blood drinkers (ie, the Blood Drinkers). I would also recommend reading some of the Blood Angel Successor DIY's and their responses, as this will help with ideas and what will get good reactions and bad reactions. The Sanguinary Crusaders by me, and some others by other people would be the Sanguinary Phalanx and the Astral Swords. Those are just a few, but still there. Edited July 7, 2011 by Telanicus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Also why no Black and red? I'll field this one. :D It's a very popular colour scheme, basically. Everyone and their dog goes for black and red. They're the two most-used colours for GW chapters, and to use red, black, or a combination of the two is a popular choice for DIY Chapters. I would say,though, if you really wanna use black and red, then do it. ^_^ *Puts on Heraldry Dept. Hat* EDIT EDIT: *Takes off Heraldry Dept. Hat.* Yeah, that's not needed here, haha. EDIT: First post back on the job, and already the typos strike at me. Wonderful. Edited July 7, 2011 by Ace Debonair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Ace Debonair: I understand the no red/ black power amor in an army. Especially it being over used, but i've already painted alot of marine that color already prior to even putting pen to paper on there chapter name. So your alt color does look nice but there already adorned in the blood, and sable or there order. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=216643 Telanicus: thanks i'll change the founding time frame to 26th I'd rather have them a newer chapter rather than try to pencil in their entire history. whoa that would be atleast 6 monthes to ever get that done lol. Tyther: dragons in space not possible... mmm who do the Salamanders SM's co-exist with? And Catachian's live in a dense jungle full off all sorts of nasties. So anything is possible. Too all: I thank you for you comments but I honestly suck at writing, I'm more of a science, and history, rather than writing and or common English. My penmenship is far worse to let you in on a secret. But eventually maybe ill have my wife type out my word. ( its always good to have a personal secretary, and tax lady :) ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Ace Debonair: I understand the no red/ black power amor in an army. Especially it being over used, but i've already painted alot of marine that color already prior to even putting pen to paper on there chapter name. So your alt color does look nice but there already adorned in the blood, and sable or there order. It's all good. :( Sorting out the Chapter's personality is the key to writing an IA anyhow. - nail that and then everything else is just an extension of that personality. If I can suggest one thing though: please, please change the name of the Chapter's present 'Dracul' from Vlad. It's about as subtle as a half-brick to the temple. Edited July 7, 2011 by Ace Debonair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorHayn Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Aside from the whole Dracula thing, my main concern here is that the reader has no idea why anyone would choose these folks as space marines. You haven't established what creates a prime candidate, why the Sylvanians (side note: I get where you're going but it makes them sound a little Elvish) deserve the honor of becoming the Emperor's finest. They have dragons and they fight each other for farmland. Okay. I grew up in the mountains. There are bears there. I wasn't Rambo by age twelve. Getting to the point, you have the elite of a galaxy-spanning military pulling their recruits from the Hatfields and the McCoys. Give us something more about them, something to believe in. Perhaps the citizenry are the planet's lemmings, scurrying around trying not to get eaten as they scavenge for what food they can find. Perhaps they dwell in vast underground cities rife with crime and violence, a few brave or desperate individuals venturing out to seek those items the populace cannot procure beneath the deadly surface. Tell us what forges these Astartes into the weapons of wanton destruction that we all know and love. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Okay. I grew up in the mountains. There are bears there. I wasn't Rambo by age twelve. I laughed aloud for ten whole minutes when I read this. Fantastic. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2812819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorHayn Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Always happy to bring joy to the masses, Ace. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2813005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbyssKnight Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I think a BA successor that focuses on their vampiric aspect could be cool if not overplayed. Unforetunately, I think you are overplaying it. But for the most part its just a matter of toning down the worst parts. Things I like: The color scheme, I don't care if people think red/black are over used it looks good. Sylvannia, it brings to mind forests not fangs, as long as you tone down some other stuff I would keep this name. The hunting ritual, the one bit of chapter fluff you have included is nice though more feral than normal for non-Black Rage BA and hunting animals (even dragons) instead of people doesn't really support the vampire theme. You may want to modify it, but I like that you included it. I don't think we get enough information about the chapter yet. You basically just describe their homeworld and their leader. Organization and recruitment practices, variations in how they view the Emperor and relationship with other Imperial entities, recent activies they have been involved; these are important aspects to fully describing the nature of your chapter. I don't mind dragons. The salamanders (small s) of Nocturne, for whom the Salamanders (big S) are named, are described as large (Firedrakes can be several tons) reptiles that live on volcanic mountains and breath fire (see Index Astartes IV: Salamanders). I imagine they are reddish-brown in color given their environment. Also, exodite eldar ride some kind of large reptiles described as dragons, but I know much less about them so I am not familiar with the details. But neither have wings. Further, while Dracula can mean "son of the dragon" it can also mean "son of the demon" as I understand, and considering I think this is one of the areas you should probably tone down, I am not sure dragons really contribute to your central theme. Dragons don't say "vampire" and don't say "space marine." I would work to get it down to just these two themes without throwing a third one in the mix. Instead of a very obvious reference like Vlad, maybe go with Bram (like the author), or better yet Brahm. If you nix some of the other dragon stuff you could even surname him Brahm Dragonborn, which brings back the Dracula reference but hides in in plain English. I hope some of these ideas help. As a final observation, you say you like history but don't like writing. I don't really understand that much. I have a degree in History and I can't tell you how many papers I had to write in school!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-2814057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aduros Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Are blood dragons real, or did you make them up???????? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3008171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Are blood dragons real, or did you make them up???????? :P They are a self created chapter. I've been painting them, and playing for about a few years now. but only recently began to create a IA. As far as I've seen "Blood Dragon" is a popular theme since there are 5 total including yourself to favor that name. Im trying to think of fluff wise that their are many companies of said chapter that change there armor depending on crusade/ war time etc.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3008191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 IA open to C&C. I've edited it greatly from the last time. I Hope it does honor to my little painted warriors... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3028552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 I added in the chapter symbol its kinda ^_^ messed up and blurry but its the best I can do with out photoshop, or a art program at home. And since I'm at work on a computer all day this is my time to edit and surf B&C. Hope every one likes it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3037225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I like them. Now you just have to make your character based off Greyall's drawing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3037286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 I like them. Now you just have to make your character based off Greyall's drawing! It's in the works. not anytime soon tho. Got to get my :) in gear for painting troops and vehicles first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3037333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 I was thinking of somehow making a mutation flaw with the Blood Dragons. What I was thinking is.. some how, some of the marines can spit fire.(Not to the high degree of a flamethrower for a mouth). But more like one could spit a fluid of highly flammable liquid at an enemy. Only few exhibit this trait and those that are inflicted with this mutation are grouped into members with similar flame projection ability. Would this be to stupid? Or how would I create this lore to fit in with 40K. C&C needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3300183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 At most I think it might come across as gimmicky, but it would depend on the context. If they just happened to be a dragon themed Chapter that spit fire, too much coincidence. If someone tried to engineer them that way, or the flaw came before the name and the theme, easier to swallow. I don't think it would be too hard, though, what with a gland that already lets them spit acid. A couple of changes/corruptions and its already there. Like you said, some kind of flammable liquid would be best, that perhaps they light with a pilot on the end of every marine's bolter, or on the collar of their armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3300253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightrawenII Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 At most I think it might come across as gimmicky, but it would depend on the context. His Chapter, Blood Dragons, rides creatures, the blood dragons, into battle... there isn't any limit on how gimmicky one Chapter can be.... @DeathKnight2000 Don't make me cry. In your article, 'blood' is mentioned 50x and 'dragon' is mentioned 60x. Right now, your Chapter suffers from serious case of over-theming. Tonne down the 'blood dragon' and apply great measure of subtlety. ~NightrawenII Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3300589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messor Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I would see gimmicky more as, the Chapter's founded, CM decrees their name Blood Dragons, then they find a planet with native 'dragons' that, by the by, happen to be bloody...oh and we also spit fire. As it is, they take their name from a symbol of power on the planet, and have in some cases mastered and dominated that symbol to their own will, kinda like Space Wolves. In the same way, the fire spitting need not be gimmicky, but the Chapter simply surrounding itself further with the symbol/icons that identify it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233592-ia-blood-dragons/#findComment-3300868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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