Atropos Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hello guys. I want to use Thunderwolf Cavalry, but their high points kinda makes me think it twice. Then I look at their profile and I'm tempted again. Have you ever used them? If so, how many did you use and how did you equipped them? Many thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I run them in a unit of three (that's all the models I have) and they very rarely fail me. Watch out for STR 10 large blast weapons. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2812916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I use them and enjoy them quite nicely. To really explain how I use them, we need to rehash a little history of thunderwolves and our new codex. When the new dex came out, TWM/TWC really shined from the beginning. They were shining fairly brightly in tournament lists as well as people had not yet adjusted their deathstar type tactics. Basically it was move, run, and assault; every game, all the time. However as time went on and people learned, TWM/TWM started to lose a bit of their lethality. Not because of any lack of stabby stabbyness on their part, but because people began to treat them like most hardened infantry units and started directing volume of fire into them as soon as they could. It wasn't even anti-armor that caused the most damage to them, but massed small to medium arms fire. So now we are seeing the second life of TWC/TWM. The builds are not as costly amymore because they are not getting tricked out so much anymore to be the ubah deathstar units of old. Also they are not a fire and forget weapon of the lists anymore. Nowadays, TWM/TWC are what I call a surgical chainsaw. A wolf lord on a TWM with just a couple of TWC is going to absolutely rip most units to shreds (chainsaw), but the application of them strategically (surgical) ensure that they can do it time and time again to your opponent that is trying to apply volume of fire to bring them down. Now builds themselves; Most wolf lord builds will be either thunderhammer/storm shield, frostblade/stormshield, or wolf claw/storm shield. I personally have not seen much deviation from that due to the desire to run with a juicy 3++ save at all times. Additionally, these are normally run with Saga of the Bear as standard to avoid any pesky Instant Death which is becoming more and more prevalent. TWC are more equipped now for wound allocation. Luckily would allocation games also means that you can run them fairly cheap while still packing a punch. A small 3 TWC unit could be; Storm shield, melta bombs Thunderhammer or Frostblade or Wolfclaw, melta bombs melta bombs Remember the two TWC without speciall ccw will be dishing out str 5 rending attacks, running them a little bare is still pretty powerful and they are all able to take down armor with the melta bombs if needed. So quick TWM/TWC lesson from my Droid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2812935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhyn Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I did when I came back in August, had a lot of fun with them. Then moved away from SW, and played Necron for a bit. Now that I am back with SW, one of the army variations I am wanting to do is a full Wolf army. :D 90 Fenrisian wolves, Canis, Iron Priest on cyborg wolf, and Thunderwolf Cav. Still need to work out the points, but need to get as close to 1850 as I can. Will it win a lot, who knows, but I really want to see the looks on folks face when I put em on the table at tourneys off and on. :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2812936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalachiOfRuss Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I did when I came back in August, had a lot of fun with them. Then moved away from SW, and played Necron for a bit. Now that I am back with SW, one of the army variations I am wanting to do is a full Wolf army. :D 90 Fenrisian wolves, Canis, Iron Priest on cyborg wolf, and Thunderwolf Cav. Still need to work out the points, but need to get as close to 1850 as I can. Will it win a lot, who knows, but I really want to see the looks on folks face when I put em on the table at tourneys off and on. :cuss Can't claim objectives with that list. Table or tie! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2812962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhyn Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Yeah I know. :D But still would be fun to field and would make it interesting stratagy wise to make sure he didnt have anything to claim with. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2812974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I won't use them til someone manages to put out a good sculpt of them; atleast one that I think blends best with an all-GW product army. And no... I've seen all that's currently out there. Not impressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Durendal Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Basically everything Ramses said is spot on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeddon Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 ...Storm shield, melta bombsThunderhammer or Frostblade or Wolfclaw, melta bombs melta bombs... Melta bombs, melta bombs, melta bombs! Now drink thrice! ;) Sorry, couldn't help myself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I use them and enjoy them quite nicely. To really explain how I use them, we need to rehash a little history of thunderwolves and our new codex. So quick TWM/TWC lesson from my Droid. There is always the possibility of catching out people by using the old but not used for a while strategy.... People get used to fighting against X. As you said Ramses, dudes were initially shocked by TWC due to them not fitting the mould. The unit is effective and people didn't know how to deal with it, so it worked. This was because they hadn't seen TWC before. But what happens if you try for a bit of 'retro' action and bust out the old 5 TWC T-Rex unit? In Cricket, and I'd guess Baseball too, when the ball comes at the batsman, he can get out to a fairly plain delivery, because he was so expecting the ball to swing away from him and when he faces one that just keeps straight, it catches him out. You could also try to disguise that 'straight' one. How about using a LR as a moving wall for the unit? The LR moves forwards Nth and pivots the face the N-Wst, for instance. It now provides a bigger amount of cover for the trailing TWC [be they the 5 man T-Rex unit or the smaller and more modern Raptor unit] and changes the a] amount of shooting they receive and b] the lack of ++ saves they can make. You can put a 5 man TROOP unit in the LR, to have a scoring Raider.... I guess it is easier to do with the 3 man TWC, but I'm just spit-balling. :ph34r: Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropos Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Thanks, guys. How about these two builds? 3 TWC 1 with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs 1 with Frost Axe and Melta Bombs 1 with Wolf Claws and Melta Bombs 4 TWC 1 with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs 1 with Frost Axe and Melta Bombs 1 with Wolf Claws and Melta Bombs 1 with Frost Blade and Melta Bombs Any thoughts? Thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 You cannot have more then one special ccw per TWC pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropos Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Wooops. You're right. I'll change that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropos Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 Changed: 3 TWC 1 with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs 1 with Thunderhammer and Melta Bombs 1 with Melta Bombs 4 TWC 1 with Storm Shield and Melta Bombs 1 with Thunderhammer and Melta Bombs 1 with Storm Shield 1 with Melta Bombs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Worth sticking plasma pistols in there to open up transports? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I prefer the 'thunder priest'. An Iron Priest on TWM with four cyberwolves following him around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I don't use mine down the club as people still haven't worked out how to deal with them and so just don't enjoy the game ;-) I think that TWC with TH is rarely going to need MB as well, but if you have the spare points, why not. Regards, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I'm modelling my "Iron Priest" as a thunderlord. It's the characters where thunder wolf mounts work so well. The cavalry aren't quite as good as the hype would have you believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktd Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Hello. How about this: Wolf Lord (TWM, hammer, shield, wtt, wtn, runic armour, bear, fenresian wolf) Wolf Lord (TWM, claw, shield, wtn, runic armour, majesty, fenresian wolf) Wolf Lord (TWM, calw, shield, wtt, wtn, runic armour, fenresian wolf) Wolf Lord (TWM, claw, shield, wtt, wtn, runic armour, meltabomb, 2 fenresian wolves) Lords go with TWC with storm shield and thunder hummer You got deathstar unit with wound allocation, and they can charge 4-5 targets at one time, and only for 1105 points! ^_^ P.S. Sorry for bad english Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I've been using them for a while, they are a lot of fun but Grey Knights and Dark Eldar can really hurt them so I tend not to run them in tournaments now. There is just much more out there now from when they were fresh and deadly. But GKs are king of the party poopers, and have rocketed in popularity...sadly. Play wise I always reserve them, as they can run onto the board and still hit most things in the middle of the board. It protects them from 1st turn alpha strikes like baal preds or IG guns etc. I use a 3 man pack combined with Ragnars howl. Furious charge Thunder Wolves gives you a feel good glow inside every time. Or a 4 man pack with thunderlord (frost blade, shield, melta bombs) The other side of the coin is max. 15 big angry beasts with 2 Thunderlords. Just for fun mind ^_^ I think every wolf player should try them once, just a shame that they have to be so careful nowadays. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233641-thunderwolf-cavalry/#findComment-2813484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.