Allfather1 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 This chapter is inspired by the concept of the Tyranid War veterans and the Sons of Orar chapter I want this chapter to be based on hatred of the Tyranids. I wanted them to be admirers of First Captain Invictus of the Ultramarines and thought it would be easiest their first chaptermaster was a student and friend of Invictus. This is just a very rough draft. I will mold them into my image, they will be the Lions of Ultramar and our enemies will fear our roar. chaptermaster Phillimachos, the Lion of Ultramar. The chapter is named after their first chaptermaster, who's nickname was the Lion of Ultramar. 26th founding. Founded to strengthen the Imperium and expand it's borders. After the battle for Maccrage they turned form this goal and swore they would wage a war of extermination against the tyranid race. I couldn't think of a good reason for their founding and just thought this would be fine. Homeworld I don't understand Phillimachos. It's just a lifeless rock now, just a rock. It might be just a rock but it is a symbol of our chapter now. Conversation between first captain ___ and Phillimachos. Dead World Mining World A giant fortress-monastery covering the planet is being build. Recruit from worlds that were attacked by tyranids/ genestealers. One of their first battles against the tyranids after hearing of the Battle of Maccrage. A splinterfleet that had devoured several planets already was heading towards the world _____ and the inquisitor __ wanted to virusbomb the world to deny the tyranids the biomass. Phillimachos convinced the inquisitor to delay the exterminatus and deployed his forces. Evacuating as much of the population as possible before the tyranids arrived. When millions of tyranids were on the surface of the world Phillimachos ordered the retreat of the Imperial forces. When the majority of the Imperial forces were safe in orbit he ordered the exterminatus. With the death of millions of Tyranid organisms the hive mind was weakened and Phillimachos ordered his chapter and other forces under his command to board the hiveships and destroy the hive mind within. No Tyranid escaped the battle. After the battle Phillimachos declared that the world would be the homeworld of the Lions. Beliefs Extreme hatred for the tyranids. Revere a trinity. (Emperor, Primarch, Invictus). The chapter sees themselves as the heirs of the people of their homeworld and they hate the tyranids all the more for taking their world from them. Organization. As the codex dictates. Though forces of chapter serfs often support their masters on the battlefield. For every marine on the field you can often find at least 5 serfs. Combat doctrine Follow the Codex. Their favored tactic is the retreating defense, one squad will act as bait, luring the enemy into the fire of another squad, retreat and set up to cover the retreat of the other squad. Have a preference for fast-firing weapons. Close ties with the Deathwatch. (Deathwatch service is required to join the first company.) Excellent Tyranid killers. Geneseed. As pure as that of the Ultramarines. Battlecry. Official battlecry: Hear me roar!!! Unofficial battlecry: Something involving Invictus. Well that's it for now. I await your judgement. I came up with this color scheme and their chapter badge will be a golden lion's head. I still trying to create a more in depth description of their beliefs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceadwe Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Sounds pretty good to me. I like the 'you destroyed our planet, I'm gonna batter you' fluff. Only thing I'm not sure of is the battlecry, it sounds like something from a kids book. I'm Rory, I'm a lion, ROAR. That sort of thing. How about a call and response cry? Captain - 'We are Lions!'. Company - roar. Overall though, I like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2814354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfather1 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Sounds pretty good to me. I like the 'you destroyed our planet, I'm gonna batter you' fluff. Only thing I'm not sure of is the battlecry, it sounds like something from a kids book. I'm Rory, I'm a lion, ROAR. That sort of thing. How about a call and response cry? Captain - 'We are Lions!'. Company - roar. Overall though, I like it. Well I went with this as a battlecry because of this http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Lannister But another battlecry is perfectly fine. I was thinking about a battlecry that sounded proud and agressive. Maybe something like: Ours is the Fury. For the planet destroying thing. I was thinking that it wasn't their homeworld before it was destroyed, the tyranids came and the chaptermaster decided that the exterminatus of the planet should serve a purpose and makes sure that millions of tyranids are on the surface. Afterwards the chaptermaster decrees that the world becomes their homeworld. He then says that he wanted to make it their homeworld before it was destroyed and that recruited heavily from it already (they actually recruited from the world but didn't depend on it.). He does this so that his chapter will hate the tyranids with a passion and honour his wish to wage a war of extermination on them. I want their first chaptermaster driven by hate and become a real nasty guy. (Using humans as bait, fuelling the hatred in his chapter.) Thanks for the comments and will look at the battlecry again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2814381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Rourke The Fanged Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Their favored tactic is the retreating defense, one squad will act as bait, luring the enemy into the fire of another squad, retreat and set up to cover the retreat of the other squad.This is the only thing I really have a problem with as the Space Marines are taught to attack, attack, attack and then attack some more. Generally Space Marines can't even stomach the idea of giving ground to the enemy. You can keep this if you want but it could use a pretty good reason as to why they like this. I think you might be using this...Phillimachos convinced the inquisitor to delay the exterminatus and deployed his forces. Evacuating as much of the population as possible before the tyranids arrived. When millions of tyranids were on the surface of the world Phillimachos ordered the retreat of the Imperial forces. When the majority of the Imperial forces were safe in orbit he ordered the exterminatus. With the death of millions of Tyranid organisms the hive mind was weakened and Phillimachos ordered his chapter and other forces under his command to board the hiveships and destroy the hive mind within. No Tyranid escaped the battle. ... as the reason but i don't really buy it. It seems more like a "save as many citizens, kill as many xenos as possible" event not a "change in Space Marine ways/beliefs" event to me. That is really my only beef. I am liking it so far, keep up the good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2814745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfather1 Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 Their favored tactic is the retreating defense, one squad will act as bait, luring the enemy into the fire of another squad, retreat and set up to cover the retreat of the other squad.This is the only thing I really have a problem with as the Space Marines are taught to attack, attack, attack and then attack some more. Generally Space Marines can't even stomach the idea of giving ground to the enemy. You can keep this if you want but it could use a pretty good reason as to why they like this. I think you might be using this... As they are fighting tyranids most of their time I thought it would be beter if they tried to stay out of close combat for as long as possible. This is also why they like fast firing weapons, they want to kill as many tyranids without losing marines. Tyranids seem to be close combat orriented, so while one squad keeps them at bay the other squad relocates so that the first squad can retreat whille under covering fire. But I can see why I should explain it more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2814795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Rourke The Fanged Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I can see maybe a couple squads venturing out in front of the main line and doing this in defensive situations. I am not sure if I buy it for an entire battle group to use this tactic as eventually they will reach a point where they can't fall back any longer. They will need a strong defensive line when that happens and you can't really set those up on the fly. Although if you are facing an entire horde of Nids I am not sure if a couple squads of fire power would be enough to hold them at bay for the other squads to retreat. I do like the fact that they deploy more rapid firing weapons in place of slower more powerful weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2815223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfather1 Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Added the color scheme of the Lions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233677-lions-of-ultramar-aka-sons-of-invictus/#findComment-2821814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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