appiah4 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I've been painting Blood Angels for a while.. It's been taking forever.. Here are two examples of my earlier methods, the first with inks, the second with washes. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...i&img=72298 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...i&img=72297 After all these long years of trying to paint red, I decided this. Blacklining is horrible. I used to advocate it, but I give up. It's really unforgiving and too hard to fix once you mess up. It has too much contrast, looks too two dimensional and cartoony, and is simply bad looking. Most importantly, I don't find it fun anymore. So I took out my wash collection, and decided to have a go at trying to find a much easier way of painting red with a couple of test figures. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...i&img=72299 This is the one that best reflects my initial goal. The method I used is: 1. Grey Primer 2. Plaid Folkart Lipstick Red basecoat (GW Blood Red) 3. GW Ogryn Flesh Wash 4. Plaid Folkart Lipstick Red highlight (GW Blood Red) 5. GW Baal Red Wash 6. Plaid Folkart Lipstick Red highlight (GW Blood Red) 7. Plaid Folkart Red Light highlight (GW Blazing Orange) 8. Plaid Folkart Pure Orange highlight (GW Fiery Orange Now OOP) So my question is.. What do you think of this red? I really need some encouragement before I start (re)painting my army this way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 the first mini hurts my eyes with its brightness :jaw: the others look ok :tu: fine highlights with orange (forget its name) will make them look alot brighter overall ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 it,s dirty and gritty and i like it but thats me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 I actually prefer the top model. For me, this is a game with silly cartoon-like superhero goodies and baddies. I'm fed up with the growing trend in every current popular medium to make everything "gritty" and "grim" and "realistic". My attitude is: white undercoat, blood-red paint and make those models POP. I'm going to have my entire army painted in such garish red that it makes my opponents shield their eyes when I put it on the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 That red looks exactly how I like mine, but its to your taste. So IMO, that red looks great and when all is said and done, that mini will be a sgt by paintjob alone :jaw: 8 steps seems like to many though. It seems like you could do less coats of red, if you used a white undercoat instead of grey, maybe try another test mini with it. It would help you accomplish two things: 1. Less steps in trying to make it more red. 2. It will give off a brighter red, and if you use a watered down mix of your red it will leave the edges a bit highlighted already. I have also found out that too much of the baal red wash can turn your mini into a completely different color than originated, so use it sparingly or again, just water it down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Try using vomit brown as a highlight. It's really an orange. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant1clock Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I was the same took me ages to get even one marine done, then I discovered Halfords red primer. My new method for painting red is (UK only I'm afraid) 1 spray of Halfords red primer Wash of ruby red wash from the Lee's recipe at awesomepaintjob.com Dry brush blood red Light dry brush of blazing orange I can get 10 marines completely finished in approx 6 hours, 10 terminators in probably the same time. The red primer goes over black GW primer or direct onto plastic. I have also used the grey primer on my Circle constructs, stone is so easy with it. ant1clock Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I'm sort of with the cartoon school of colour. But I haven't seen a red which actually behave like a shiny-red paint (like a Ferrari!) which is how I imagine the Blood Angels' armour is supposed to look. The cover of the codex (for all its faults) tries to show how this works - the red highlights swiftly to white, without any hint of the blazing orange phase a lot of the best miniature painting uses, and also with no hint of the pink I get to if I try this route Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Have you considered a basecoat of mechrite red foundation paint after priming? I have a lot of red in my chapter and I find it significantly cuts down on the layers of blood red one needs to apply. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2814864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Personally, I love mechrite red. The shadows it creates (over black) are very grim and Blood Red goes smoothly over the top. I suppose there must be some problems with it, as GW don't use it for their best BA models (like the space hulk ones). It is the highlights which fox me. I use blazing orange and wash back with baal red, but maybe gloss varnish would actually work better? I'm about to try it on the sanguinary guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2815102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seva Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 One way to do it and get really subtle highlights would be to paint the model the brightest highlight from the get go. If orange is your highlight then start there and work your way down to the shadows. For me its easier to get the edges when you don't really have to paint them. The drawback is that it takes awhile. I have tried red all sorts of different ways. there always seems to be another way to get it done. Vomit brown is a great highlight for red, you can go bleached bone as well if you are feeling brave. Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2815240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I think I've seen those terminators elsewhere... Edit: It's alright. Got the issue solved. ;) Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2815636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Sorry to resurrect, but I just updated the original post with actually (nearly) finished models and got rid of most of the rant in it. Please comment if you like/dislike how it looks, and tell me why. I really look forward to your comments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2822329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Hiltraud Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Personally, I liked all of you reds - from cartoony to realistic. The top 2 pics remind me very much of the old school pics I used to see in WD and such when I was a kid.... These last 3 models you have done are great, I really like the red you have acheived, the highlights are subtle, and the colours in the armour lines and recesses are very smooth. Those models are very easy to look at and when I see them, I see a beautiful Blood Angels force in the making! :D Actually, the whole time I was writing this, I kept scrolling up and really fell in love with your red :D Yours in Honour, Faith and Blood, Chaplain Hiltraud [EDIT] BTW; if you like the colours and enjoy painting the models with your method, you should definately go for it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233754-what-do-you-think-of-this-red/#findComment-2822472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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