kipsaus Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 hello first post here after a long time watching, after reading Horus Rising i wanted to make the Mournival with Loken, Torgaddon, Aximand and Abaddon. my question is wat armour type are they wearing and wat is there loadout. For Abaddon it is termi armour and about wargear i have no idea and loken MK4 with a bolter and a chainsword. the rest is a question i would like to hear your opinion about this. greetz Kipsaus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 If it were me i would have them like this Abaddon: Terminator armour, Storm Bolter, Power glove. Aximond: Mark 4, Bolt Pistol, Power sword(Gladius). Torgoddon: Mark 4, Bolt Pistol, Power sword(Gladius). Loken: Mark 4, bolterandchainsword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2814663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 For Loken I would give him a chainsword but use the rules for a power sword to show his skill and strength Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2814811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curnow Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Little horus is suppose to no storic so I would give him mk3 just so he seems more in movable ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2816858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus 101 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I pretty sure Abaddon doesn't have a storm bolter. They don't mention his wargear but the big Horus Heresy book (Collected Visions) it shows him with a power fist and power sword. As for Loken, it sometimes says he has a power sword, sometimes says he has a chainsword. Either way, you should count it as a power sword. Alternatively, you could give them all a special power sword (in the same manner BA Sanguinary Guard) to help tie them all together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2819026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Munkrunky Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 in his latest incarnation he is rocking a chainsword Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2819036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fear Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Pretty sure Abaddon would not have had a Storm Bolter - do not think that they existed back then, happy to be corrected though. Loken has to have a Power Sword. His Chainsword clearly has an energised blade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2826635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Pretty sure Abaddon would not have had a Storm Bolter - do not think that they existed back then, happy to be corrected though. Loken has to have a Power Sword. His Chainsword clearly has an energised blade. You are right, but they had twin linked bolters which were essentually the same thing iirc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2827019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipsaus Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 Thanks already for your replies this helps really much when my Forge World kit of MK 4 arrives i will put up pics and wat about Horus? can i put him in power armour? because termi armour was introduced at the end of the crusade. thanks already Kipsaus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2827302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Pretty sure Abaddon would not have had a Storm Bolter - do not think that they existed back then, happy to be corrected though. Loken has to have a Power Sword. His Chainsword clearly has an energised blade. When Abaddon Fights Loken in GiF, He fights only with a "Energized Claw". Also called "his bladed fist bathed in lethal energies". His other fist is open. That to me says it would hold a gun if it was a battle. Also as far as Storm Bolters go, Horus has one in Horus Rising. He uses it to Shoot the Emperor(pg 43). Loken on the other hand has no special wargear of any kind. I understand why people would want him to have a power sword but to me his lack of cool weapons makes him stand out. His Chain-sword is never even hinted to be master crafted or different then any other such weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2836007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
csblackhawk Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 His other fist is open. That to me says it would hold a gun if it was a battle. Or could mean he's just left his sword behind because his big old claw and his terminator armour are enough to smash loken to pieces! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Loken also has a power blade in Horus rising. Like knife-sized. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curnow Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Abaddon wears power armour as he is too big to fit in termi that's why he let's falkus kibre lead the justaerin . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Abaddon wears power armour as he is too big to fit in termi that's why he let's falkus kibre lead the justaerin . What are you talking about? :blink: :o :huh: :devil: If size were an impediment to wearing Terminator armour then the Fabricator General's gift to Horus would be a bit of a waste as he wouldn't be able to wear it. Abaddon was a First Captain of one of the Legions, if a "normal" sized Terminator suit wouldn't have fit him a suit would've been made to fit (as most Astartes kit would need to be anyway). Also, does that come from an actual source or is it speculation/a guess? I ask, because I don't recall anything like that being mentioned in any of the HH novels thus far. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigger-than-Jesus Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Abaddon wears power armour as he is too big to fit in termi that's why he let's falkus kibre lead the justaerin . What are you talking about? ;) :o :huh: :blink: If size were an impediment to wearing Terminator armour then the Fabricator General's gift to Horus would be a bit of a waste as he wouldn't be able to wear it. Abaddon was a First Captain of one of the Legions, if a "normal" sized Terminator suit wouldn't have fit him a suit would've been made to fit (as most Astartes kit would need to be anyway). Also, does that come from an actual source or is it speculation/a guess? I ask, because I don't recall anything like that being mentioned in any of the HH novels thus far. There's a joke made by Torgaddon in one of the books about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDoc Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 There's a joke made by Torgaddon in one of the books about it. Ah yes, the joke, the one made by someone who's bigger than Abaddon. Was I mistaken in thinking a joke was nothing more than a joke? Did I miss something suggesting that was more than just friendly ribbing on Torgaddon's part? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo_ishivar_kain Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 This is my version of Loken ( using SW rules) Wolf lord w frost blade, bolter and runic armour and Torgaddon Wolf Lord w power weapon, bolter and runic armour. I give him the saga of the bear ;) and also LH Aximand Wolf lord w power weapon, bolter and runic armour. @Abbadon..quoting Lexicanum: "He often wore a large black wolf-pelt over his Power Armour, to which he also attached a cloak upon occasion. Abaddon possessed both a suit of power armour and suit of Terminator Armour, the former being painted in the standard colours of his Legion, while the latter was primarily black in colouration. This marked him out as a member of the 1st Company elite, all of whom wore black armour. Indeed, Abaddon's personal unit was the black-armoured Justaerin Terminator Squad, but he normally left command of it to Captain Falkus Kibre. Little Horus Aximand quipped that this was because Abaddon was actually too big to fit inside a Terminator suit. Towards the end of the Great Crusade, Abaddon would only be seen in his black Terminator garb. " My version of Abbadon, WL w wolf claw, runic armour (Storm Bolter), saga of the warrior born. OR Terminator armour, wolf claw or Power fist and SB.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/233771-mournival-questions/#findComment-2866603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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