Hot Rod

[gettothegone]

I have a 5 man squad of GK Terms.

 

One of them has a rod.

 

A warlock appears.

 

A warlock uses disintegrator...

 

a) Its super effective?

b) It has no effect?

 

Discuss.

[thade]

If this is a serious post (I assume it is) I'm afraid I'll need a bit more info. What is a "warlock" (I'm guessing it's Dark Eldar?) and what's the statline/effects chart on a "disintegrator"?

[gettothegone]

Serious

 

A warlock would be like a jetlock with say a farseer that uses a S5/AP4 template.

 

The argument is that the template attack is a psychic attack, but does not require psychic test.

 

The rod *and I'm going from a brief reading here* protects the squad from being a target of psychic attacks.

 

If I read this wrong, please let me know. But would that null that attack?

 

I'm like THIS close to buying a whole world of GK models, and I'm just reading up and getting info before I make the jump.

[DantonTH]

What is Rod? You mean Null Rod from the daemonhunters codex? How they got null rod anyway if so?

If there is something I don't understand I must beg you pardon. If you mean Null rod; I would say Disintegrator does not work as it is psychic attack anyway.

[dswanick]

Warlock Powers

Destructor : Destructor is used in the shooting phase instead of firing a weapon. It works out like a normal shooting attack with the folowing profile:

Range : Template S : 5 AP : 4 Assault 1

 

Null Rod : {{snip}} Furthermore, the bearer (and his squad) cannot be affected by psychic powers (friendly or enemy) in any way.

 

Destructor has no effect. That said, a Grey Knight Terminator squad may not take a Null Rod.

[volrath8754]

One of the inquisitors can I assume thats what he ment.

[thade]

One of the inquisitors can I assume thats what he ment.

That had been my assumption as well; however the clarification did bear mentioning.

[Inquisitor Fox]

Regardless of the presence of a psychic test, it is a psychic power. A null rod (usually the province of an Inquisitor alone now) nullifies psychic powers. It's fairly cut and dry :mellow: You cannot use a psychic hood to nullify the power, as there is no psychic test, however a null rod works just fine (assuming the bearer of the null rod has joined the Grey Knight Terminators).

[thade]

Not sure I'd want a Null Rod with the terminators...unless I knew I was going up against Eldar.

[gettothegone]

I think I may be reading it wrong and thus the confusion. Mind you.. you've clarified both for me so all is good.

 

Warding Stave is what I was thinking about... and this is completely different from a Null Rod.

 

Thanks :P

[Inquisitor Fox]

That's correct, a Warding Staff / Stave would only function if the bearer was engaged in close combat (which they would not be from a Destructor power from an Eldar Warlock). However in that instance the bearer's armor save would suffice. A warding staff / stave would not help against say, a plasma gun or meltagun, as those are shooting attacks. It would help against a power weapon, power fist or thunder hammer as those are close combat attacks. It likewise would help against Monstrous Creatures. It helps against wounds from a failed perils test if the bearer of the staff / stave is engaged in close combat at the time of the test. Otherwise it bestows no additional psychic protection.

[gettothegone]

Right, as I was skimming through the Codex last night I confused the Null Rod with a Warding Stave.

 

Then thought.... you could put one in each group......

 

Then thought how awesome that would be with all the psy type players here.

 

:P

 

Just got ahead of myself.

[jeffersonian000]

Aegis should still work against the attack, with or without an Inquisitor w/ Null Rod.

 

SJ

[Something Wycked]

Aegis should still work against the attack, with or without an Inquisitor w/ Null Rod.

And be doubly effective (quadruple, really) if they're in range of a Dreadnought.

 

Yummy psychic defenses we have.

[Hiro_Protagonist]

Aegis wouldn't do anything. No Psychic test for Destructor, so who cares if you've got a Ld penalty?

[Something Wycked]

Hah, got lost in the "psychic power" and forgot about the "doesn't roll" part ;)

[thade]

Yerp. Aegis is a no-go.

 

Silly xenos and their shenanigans.

[Hackbar]

That's correct, a Warding Staff / Stave would only function if the bearer was engaged in close combat (which they would not be from a Destructor power from an Eldar Warlock). However in that instance the bearer's arImor save would suffice. A warding staff / stave would not help against say, a plasma gun or meltagun, as those are shooting attacks. It would help against a power weapon, power fist or thunder hammer as those are close combat attacks. It likewise would help against Monstrous Creatures. It helps against wounds from a failed perils test if the bearer of the staff / stave is engaged in close combat at the time of the test. Otherwise it bestows no additional psychic protection.

 

Just a trivial side note, but depending on how you read the FAQ I think the warding staff save could also be applied to any Low AP blasts that happen to scatter onto your unit, so long as it is in combat.