Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 If you charge a rhino and destroy it and the unit in the rhino gets out, are you now in combat with the unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Does it say so in the rule book? If not could i have an explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 1: you can't be locked in combat with a vehicle without ws. 2: a rhino and the unit inside are seperate units. 3: you are only engaged with units you have charged or have charged you (apart from multiple units in the same combat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The unit and the transport are two separate things. You kill the transport, causing an emergency disembarkation, unless you've surrounded all the exits, in which case they are removed from the table. Otherwise, they remain outside the 1 inch range but within two inches of the hatches, meaning you can't attack them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 But doesnt a transport count as a upgrade to the unit and if you play like that would the transport be its own kill-point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Transports aren't upgrades. They are simply unlocked by taking the unit, and afterwards count as completely separate from the unit. Think of a Captain and a Command Squad. The Command Squad is a separate unit from the Captain, even though you need a Captain to take a command squad. Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Ya but then why does a rhino and a unit count as one kill-point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 It doesn't, it counts as two different kill points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Really, thats what i thought (about the kill points) but the guys at the place i game insist that they are 1 kill-point together so i couldnt see why they shouldnt count as one unit. By the way does it say that in the rule book and if it does what are the pg. # Â thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reglor Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 It never specificly says that a unit and it's dedicated transport count as two kill points, but it also never says they do. Because a dedicated transport is a unit in its own right it is worth a kill point regardless of the status of the unit is was purchesed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipolian Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Alright cool thanks a lot guys ... just so you know you have soon to be officialy allowed me to will the battle!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The unit and the transport are two separate things. You kill the transport, causing an emergency disembarkation, unless you've surrounded all the exits, in which case they are removed from the table. Otherwise, they remain outside the 1 inch range but within two inches of the hatches, meaning you can't attack them. Actually, you'd have to surround the entire hull, or near enough, anyways, as per "Emergency disembarkation". It's nestled in the vehicle section under transports. Of course, if they have to make an emergency disembarkation, they can't do anything else that player turn. Not that they'll care about that if it gets nailed in your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Thank you, Ezra. I'm getting my jump out of vehicle rules confused again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Thank you, Ezra. I'm getting my jump out of vehicle rules confused again. Things like those are nice to know when you start going mechanised, as I have of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 That explains it. I don't think I've ever played a mechy mech army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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