dizzy-xc Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 A very nice story, yet I don't feel it answers the question posed. 12th paragraph, techmarine trains another techmarine. Also it wouldnt surprise me to know that techmarines get together with other techmarines from other chapters and have techmarine conventions and share their handiwork and trade. I mean, what better way to be more valued in your chapter than the one who has the answers to all the questions... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Whatever inspires you, is just the spark. The bonfire that is your imagination must already be there, awaiting that spark. Once ablaze all you can do is feed the fire. ~in his 'zen' mood... Lol, can I steal that? That was awesome. That quote will end up in a book someday... :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sure. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Okay, I read the story and I'll agree that within the story its explained that Techmarines can train other Techmarines. My point still stands. I see nothing in Dizzy's profile saying that he's part of the GW writing staff. So the story is fanfic. Fanfic cannot, nor should it ever, be used to justify anything. Anything and everything could be justified by the use of fanfic, therefore nothing can be justified in this way. For instance, I could write a story saying that my marines are 12' tall and fire lightning bolts out their butts. Should this be used to justify anything, NO NEVER. To the best of my knowledge, GW has taken the stance that ALL Techmarines are trained on Mars. If this is incorrect please point me to canon data that shows otherwise. It makes logical sense seeing as how its part of a religion concerning the machine god. An example was given of one of the most radical chapters, Space Wolves, still having to send marines to train on Mars ... I see this as the best example so far. I stand by my original statement, its a nice story but nothing more and does not answer the OPs question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espada Azul Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Deathwatch RPG, p. 88, Deathwatch Techmarine entry: "Upon their ascension to Battle-brother, those judged worthy are dispatched to a Forge World of the Adeptus Mechanicus--perhaps even to Mars itself, where they are inducted into the secrets of the Machine Cult." I understand that the RPG is a secondary canonical source, but it did have input of members of this very forum, so it's as close enough to an answer as we can get. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Techmarines have techmarine conventions where they cross train in various areas. I read it somewhere in some published GW book a long time ago. Maybe it was one of the rogue trader novels... by Ian Watson mb? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwrought Huw Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 In the Ultramarines books, there is techmarine Hawkus - who is/was an apprentice of (former) techmarine Sevano Tomasin. One of the later books (the 4th or 5th I think) says that the Ultramarines current MoTF, Fennais Maxim was Tomasin's tutor. But, it also makes reference to Mars/Forge Worlds, so I understand it as techmarines do train other techmarines, but that is only a small part of what it takes to become a techmarine. A brother is seen to have technical ability/skills. He is taken on as an apprentice of a techmarine. If found suitable, he is sent to Mars (or a suitable forge world) where he is inducted into the preisthood and gets taught all the hokus-pokus religious gibberish. After that, the marine returns to the chapter as a techmarine - but remains a junior to whoever his 'master' is, but is still a techmarine. In the 3rd edition codex, it lists 4 ranks of techmarine -(in order) MoTF, Techmarine 'supremea' (spelling?), techmarine and finally apprenta. Insignium Astartes says: Every chapter sends a number of its young warriors to Mars, where they are trained by the Tech-Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus. These young warriors are inducted into the rites and disciplines of the Machine Mysteries, the secret workings of the Tech-Priests. Once the Marines have completed their training they are no longer simply Space Marines but have also become Tech-Priests and devotees of the Cult of the Machine God. They are skilled in the arcane sciences and dark secrets of technology. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 In the Ultramarines books, there is techmarine Hawkus - who is/was an apprentice of (former) techmarine Sevano Tomasin. One of the later books (the 4th or 5th I think) says that the Ultramarines current MoTF, Fennais Maxim was Tomasin's tutor. But, it also makes reference to Mars/Forge Worlds, so I understand it as techmarines do train other techmarines, but that is only a small part of what it takes to become a techmarine. A brother is seen to have technical ability/skills. He is taken on as an apprentice of a techmarine. If found suitable, he is sent to Mars (or a suitable forge world) where he is inducted into the preisthood and gets taught all the hokus-pokus religious gibberish. After that, the marine returns to the chapter as a techmarine - but remains a junior to whoever his 'master' is, but is still a techmarine. In the 3rd edition codex, it lists 4 ranks of techmarine -(in order) MoTF, Techmarine 'supremea' (spelling?), techmarine and finally apprenta. Insignium Astartes says: Every chapter sends a number of its young warriors to Mars, where they are trained by the Tech-Priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus. These young warriors are inducted into the rites and disciplines of the Machine Mysteries, the secret workings of the Tech-Priests. Once the Marines have completed their training they are no longer simply Space Marines but have also become Tech-Priests and devotees of the Cult of the Machine God. They are skilled in the arcane sciences and dark secrets of technology. Sounds exactly like what I was imagining. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wogga the Vile Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I believe that there is also a reference in one of the Soul Drinkers novels where their diminished capacity requires them to train their own Tech-Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2829963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Ignore anything to do with the soul drinkers. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234845-can-techmarines-train-techmarines/page/2/#findComment-2830036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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