Az0g Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Hello all fellow BA players. Me and a friend recently started with 40K and bought a AOBR box together, i got the orks and i found out quickly that they were not just for me. I like that they good in assault, but they cant shoot and are not very versatile. After reading up on the different armies, i found out that BA can basicly do most of the thing that orks can do, but they are much more versatile and i feel i have much more to choose from in the BA codex. I have now bought the space marine part of AOBR from another friend of mine and I have also bought a Baal Predator and a box of assault marines for the start of my BA army. So onto my questions: #1 What would be a good buy next? #2 Is there something i should know about any of these models before gluing/painting them? Conversions etc. #3 I have not recived my models yet so I havent had time to experiment with painting yet. What do you think about mechrite red basecoat and blood red over that? Do i have to use black or white undercoat before applying mechrite? Az0g :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 1: DC boxes are very versatile. They can be used for anything like honor guard, assault marines, vanguard veterans and DC. And amazing amounts of bits. Perhaps buying extra Melta guns / plasma guns / flamers. 2: Don't glue backpack / jump packs. Magnetise is the key. My Melta / plasma / Flamer marines have "loose" guns lying in their hands. That way I can have 15 painted guns in a box and only 8 marines designated for "weapons" duty. 3: Don't ask me. I primed mine red and added colours to a gaming standard only. And it shows. Long term plan is improvement, short term is/was a painted army. :D My thoughts are with you and Norway in these terrible days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2828280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustonT Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 At least one dc box and an SG box to mix and match with the assault box. For 2 it's up to you a BA army can go from vanilla painted red to highly customized forces. Mechrite and all the other foundation paints are essentially primers. So the color under them tends not to matter. If you prime black getting a good red is tough and tends to be dark. White yields a very bright red, almost painfully. I like to prime grey, I used to spray Mechrite and then blood red, but my last batch I just went blood red over grey, they match perfectly. Try a nice even coat of blood or flat red over grey and wash with devlen mud and apply blood red to the high points. if you roll your own washes a 1:3 red to burnt sienna wash looks good and leaves a warm red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2828342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Az0g Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Thanks for the answers guys, much appreaciated. I think a DC box will be the next buy then, extra bits is always good to have. Anyone else with input is welcome to post, i can use all the help i can get :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2833371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieat daemon corn Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 GET ****MEPHISTON**** HE IS A MINI MONSTER HE ROKS IN ANY LIST yoU CAN THINK OF (just got to fit his points in) Moderator Edit: Please do not use chat/text speak, it is a violation of B+C rules. Also do not use all caps in posts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2833488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 GET ****MEPHISTON**** HE IS A MINI MONSTER HE ROKS IN ANY LIST U CAN THINK OF (just got to fit his points in) Everyone swears by Mephiston, but I've actually never played him. Not interested, for some reason. I'll look into that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2833684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieat daemon corn Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 if you try him he should work well the only bad part he doesn't have invulnerable save so most people will hit him with stuff he doesn't get a armor save for Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2833947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think my problem is that he's not got a jump pack. Now, I know he can fly around like a dafty due to his psychic powers, but for some reason that's not good enough for me in my head. I'll definitely look to try him out at some point even if it's only so I can say I don't like him. I suspect I'll like him as much as everyone else does, though! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryBA Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I think my problem is that he's not got a jump pack. Now, I know he can fly around like a dafty due to his psychic powers, but for some reason that's not good enough for me in my head. I'll definitely look to try him out at some point even if it's only so I can say I don't like him. I suspect I'll like him as much as everyone else does, though! :) Glad to hear, he's definitely fun to play with. Obviously wrecking half an army single handedly can be fun, but he can also fail on such a catastrophic level sometimes that you can't help but laugh at the bugger. I once had a game where he took off 4 of his own damn wounds. Perils twiced, plasma overheat and dangerous terrain... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieat daemon corn Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 he is a 250 point chance...but worth it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenocidal Maniac Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I'd also like to chime in for Mephiston. Dude is a BEAST. Sure, he can get killed pretty easily, but when he hits enemy units, he really is a wrecking ball. Just plows through everything. He is a ton of fun to use. I personally like Herohammer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'd also like to chime in for Mephiston. Dude is a BEAST. Sure, he can get killed pretty easily, but when he hits enemy units, he really is a wrecking ball. Just plows through everything. He is a ton of fun to use. I personally like Herohammer. Am I right in thinking he only has a maximum of six attacks? What makes him so powerful? I get that if all of his psychic powers come off, he's rerolling to hit with six attacks that wound on 2s... but we're still only talking about killing six models, no? I guess it's a question of who you're charging. And I guess you have to be pretty careful to bring other units along to make sure stuff gets dead. Actually, I was going to say that for fewer points you could get Sanguinary Guard who not only have more attacks but also have more wounds... but that's not actually true. Mephiston is harder to kill than a full unit of Sanguinary Guard: he's harder to hit, he's harder to wound and he has just as many wounds. Interesting. I'll see if my friend will let me proxy him in a game next week and see how it goes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryBA Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'd also like to chime in for Mephiston. Dude is a BEAST. Sure, he can get killed pretty easily, but when he hits enemy units, he really is a wrecking ball. Just plows through everything. He is a ton of fun to use. I personally like Herohammer. Am I right in thinking he only has a maximum of six attacks? What makes him so powerful? I get that if all of his psychic powers come off, he's rerolling to hit with six attacks that wound on 2s... but we're still only talking about killing six models, no? I guess it's a question of who you're charging. And I guess you have to be pretty careful to bring other units along to make sure stuff gets dead. Actually, I was going to say that for fewer points you could get Sanguinary Guard who not only have more attacks but also have more wounds... but that's not actually true. Mephiston is harder to kill than a full unit of Sanguinary Guard: he's harder to hit, he's harder to wound and he has just as many wounds. Interesting. I'll see if my friend will let me proxy him in a game next week and see how it goes. He also fulfills the psychic hood role, is one of the most mobile units around because of fleet (possible 24 inch charge range), and demolishes even armor 14 if needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Byhlli Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 But what a fugly model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/234888-new-ba-player/#findComment-2834416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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